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Uncle Ted Gets Caught Baiting And Shooting Illegal Deer
« on: August 20, 2010, 03:50:36 AM »
Looks as if Uncle Ted has done run afoul of the gummint.  It looks pretty bad too.

http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news/deer-98041-baiting-nugent.html

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Rock star and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent was fined $1,750 Friday in Yuba County Superior Court after pleading no contest to a charge of baiting deer on his hunting show "Spirit of the Wild."

Yuba City attorney Jack Kopp, representing Theodore Anthony Nugent, entered the plea to Department of Fish and Game charges of baiting deer and not having a deer tag "countersigned" at the closest possible location, said Deputy District Attorney John Vacek.

Nugent, who did not appear in court, also illegally shot an immature buck on the show but was not charged, according to Fish and Game.

Baiting deer is legal in some states but not in California, said department spokesman Patrick Foy. Baiting supplies are sold at some outdoor stores, he said.

The deer was killed in El Dorado County toward the end of deer hunting season last fall but brought to Yuba County. Two co-defendants, Mitchell Neil Moore and Ross Albert Patterson, live in Yuba County, said Vacek.

Moore was a photographer on the Outdoor Channel show. Patterson, who pleaded no contest to taking an animal with bait, actively spread bait called "C'mere Deer." His family owns the El Dorado County property where the hunt took place, said Foy.

Two deer were killed after being baited, said Vacek.

Moore and Patterson also were represented by Kopp and did not appear in court. Moore, who pleaded no contest to possessing an animal illegally, was fined $700. Patterson was fined $1,225.

Judge James F. Dawson ordered all three men to pay the fines by Oct. 1.

Nugent was originally facing a charge of killing a "spike" -- an immature buck -- on the program, but the charge was dropped during negotiations between his attorney and the Yuba County District Attorney's Office, said Foy.

A spike is a deer with two antlers that have not yet "forked," Foy said.

A Fish and Game warden saw the show in March and "just about fell out of his chair" when he saw Nugent with the buck, according to Foy.

A subsequent investigation led to the baiting charge. A search warrant was served in April at Moore's home in Yuba County, said Foy.

Nugent was "very cooperative" when contacted in March after the show aired, Foy said.

Fish and Game decided to treat Nugent as it would any other violator and so did not issue a press release when the charges were filed Aug. 6, Foy said.

Kopp declined comment as he left the courtroom.

A Nugent assistant at "Tedquarters" in Jackson, Mich., Linda Peterson, and his music management firm, McGhee Entertainment, had no comment.

Nugent is on a concert tour, including several stops in California, according to his website.

A Nugent biography on the website activemusician.com calls him "an outspoken advocate of hunting and gun ownership rights and the owner of 350 guns himself."

Nugent has served on the National Rifle Association's board of directors since 1995 and has had a long adversarial relationship with the animal rights movement, according to the biography.


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Re: Uncle Ted Gets Caught Baiting And Shooting Illegal Deer
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 03:55:28 AM »
So he didn't do anything wrong, just violated an ordinance, using a commercial product in accordance to legal use in many states.

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Less than two grand fine.

Okay... Ted pays it.  And keeps on hunting.

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Re: Uncle Ted Gets Caught Baiting And Shooting Illegal Deer
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 12:13:37 PM »
Yep, pocket change for him.

Only point I'd like to make is that it's nice to see someone famous deal with their legal issues in a calm and honorable manner without making a circus out of it. Although I'd expect no less from Ted.

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Re: Uncle Ted Gets Caught Baiting And Shooting Illegal Deer
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 03:37:09 PM »
From another report:
http://www.lsonews.com/hunting-news/1336-nugent-fined-for-baiting-incident

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The 61-year-old rocker was unavailable for comment, but he posted a statement on his Web site.

"To my fellow outdoorsmen," he stated. "You may have read the news that I pled no contest to two misdemeanor game violations. I should have been better informed, more aware and I take full responsibility."

"The honorable hunting lifestyle is my deepest passion."

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Re: Uncle Ted Gets Caught Baiting And Shooting Illegal Deer
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 01:46:36 AM »
You get into a very weird area when it comes to attractants and what is considered baiting.  In Missouri salt and minerals are fine but if there happens to be molasses or something in the mineral it is illegal.  You can't use cmere deer but liquid mineral is legal.  You can hunt over a food plot but not a deer feeder.  You can hunt in an orchard but if you hunt over a pile of apples in the woods it is baiting.    If you're hunting over spilled grain in a corn or bean field you may or may not be hunting over bait depending on which game warden you ask.  If you have sweet feed or molasses out for the cows and you're hunting in the general area of the pasture some game wardens consider that hunting over bait. 

It really gets wacky when it comes to migratory birds and what is considered baiting. 

I don't particularly fault uncle ted.  It sounds like the guy who was hosting the hunt was the one who "baited" the area.  Uncle ted should have known what constituted a legal buck though.  That's just laziness.  When you get tags in Missouri they give you an entire 8x11 50 page brochure which tells you how to determine if a buck is legal.

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