Author Topic: What is wrong with the FBI? (Read 25788 times)

Mikee5star · « **Reply #50 on:** August 21, 2014, 08:59:40 pm »

Quote from: Coronach on August 21, 2014, 06:35:18 pm

Though, I will say, the stuff I have seen and done is far funnier than anything I've seen on TV or the movies, it just doesn't all happen in 30, 60 or 120 minutes. And also, it is usually true cop humor, which means that 99% of the population would be HORRIBLY offended while the cops would be keeled over laughing.

Mike

Quote from: GaBoy45 on August 21, 2014, 08:55:53 pm

And most of the stuff people say or do isn't safe for most networks except maybe show time or hbo

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This is true also of the EMT/medical community as well.

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MTK20 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 21, 2014, 09:03:24 pm »

Quote from: Mikee5star on August 21, 2014, 08:59:40 pm

This is true also of the EMT/medical community as well.

Yep........

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Chief45 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 22, 2014, 11:26:06 am »

when we start talking shop, trading stories, the straights run screaming from the room. . .

Quote from: Mikee5star on August 21, 2014, 08:59:40 pm

This is true also of the EMT/medical community as well.

MTK20 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 22, 2014, 11:49:57 am »

Quote from: Chief45 on August 22, 2014, 11:26:06 am

when we start talking shop, trading stories, the straights run screaming from the room. . .

Straights?

JesseL · « **Reply #54 on:** August 22, 2014, 12:49:08 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on August 22, 2014, 11:49:57 am

Straights?

Before it meant "heterosexual", it meant something more like "people who are unaware of something or outside a particular social group", ie "unhip".

MTK20 · « **Reply #55 on:** August 22, 2014, 01:08:34 pm »

Quote from: JesseL on August 22, 2014, 12:49:08 pm

Before it meant "heterosexual", it meant something more like "people who are unaware of something or outside a particular social group", ie "unhip".

Thanks, Jesse.

I'm just too young to always know what elderly lingo you old guys are using on here

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Mikee5star · « **Reply #56 on:** August 22, 2014, 04:01:55 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on August 22, 2014, 01:08:34 pm

Thanks, Jesse.

I'm just too young to always know what elderly lingo you old guys are using on here .

Screw you! We ain't old you are just young and slow.

MTK20 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 22, 2014, 04:17:42 pm »

Coronach · « **Reply #58 on:** August 22, 2014, 05:53:03 pm »

I often have to remember to dial back my humor when around normal people. For example, the following line (used recently by me) works great with cops and the like, not so well on your average person:

"Yeah, Johnson's version of events has more holes in it than Mike Brown does."

Let's say I got some sour looks.

Mike

MTK20 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 22, 2014, 06:44:18 pm »

Quote from: Coronach on August 22, 2014, 05:53:03 pm

I often have to remember to dial back my humor when around normal people. For example, the following line (used recently by me) works great with cops and the like, not so well on your average person:

"Yeah, Johnson's version of events has more holes in it than Mike Brown does."

Let's say I got some sour looks.

Mike

Ok yeah, I get that. I've never understood the point of joking unless it is used in such a way to soften the blow of some of the most tragic things in life. As long as generalised and not used against any one , singled out individual, topics ranging from violent ( such as yours was) to sexual in nature should be considered totally above board. I've always been greatly confused as to why others don't think this way, maybe I'm not fit for general or polite society? I'll wear that one with pride though, normal people suck

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Btw, while yours was about an individual, I still consider it ok. But one should haphazardly consider their audience. Of course I've never said anything uncouth in front of soon to be displeased company

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sarge712 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 22, 2014, 08:56:24 pm »

My latest was at church when I said, "I haven't laughed that hard since Michael Jackson died..." It ruffled one of my wife's friends. She loved MJ

...and I'm sure if she were twenty years younger, MJ would love her right back.

MTK20 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 22, 2014, 10:33:53 pm »

Quote from: sarge712 on August 22, 2014, 08:56:24 pm

My latest was at church when I said, "I haven't laughed that hard since Michael Jackson died..." It ruffled one of my wife's friends. She loved MJ

...and I'm sure if she were twenty years younger, MJ would love her right back.

Damnitt.

I laughed pretty hard at that.

coelacanth · « **Reply #62 on:** August 22, 2014, 11:29:41 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on August 22, 2014, 01:08:34 pm

Thanks, Jesse.

I'm just too young to always know what elderly lingo you old guys are using on here .

I remember saying that same thing to Bill Shakespeare . . . .

MTK20 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 23, 2014, 12:55:38 am »

Of course, my previous comment was not directed at you, coelacanth : hide.

I'm going to have to check, but I feel at this rate this thread will outweigh the joke thread in humour.

*clears throat*

Getting away from the derail, this has been most enlightening. I never realised how much of the "prestige" that the fbi has is mostly nothing; that the positive view and respect commanded from the silver screen is not quite carried down or mirrored by police officers. Those here on wta show this.

I've read a bit of Jeff Cooper and he has spoken of how the job of the American police officer was moving towards becoming a bureaucracy. I suppose common sense dictates that "the suits" would be just that. Many times I've shown an interest in the work of LEO's. I don't see myself becoming one in the near future, but I will say that the fbi does not look very alluring at all.

I do have a pretty bad bias for police officers (imho, it ties for first place with the "most respected job"). I try to strike up a convo with officers when I get the chance, you know, a brief thank you for your service in addition to picking their brain about their chosen career (aka take up their time and cause annoyance

just kidding, kinda). I normally get an answer that they "want to help people" or that they "love the brotherhood" in it. I'm not sure if working in the fbi would even give someone that much satisfaction, but who knows? I wouldn't. I have never been employed by the agency, nor do I know anyone who has.

Skullcrusher · « **Reply #64 on:** August 23, 2014, 01:10:53 am »

When I was in college, both the FBI and CIA recruited on campus. If you had 4.0 gpa and were not involved in "cool" social groups, the CIA wanted you. If you carried a 3.5 gpa and you were the president of your frat, the FBI wanted you.

I don't know what Homeland Security looks for these days.

Back to the op, no, the FBI is not crazy. They are a little fish in a big pond for the first time in a long time. As long as they keep the PDX1 rounds as their issue rounds, they aren't stepping down much from the .40 S&W to the 9mm Luger.

GaBoy45 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 23, 2014, 10:02:17 am »

Well if you look at such studies as Marshall and Sanow (which I do as they looked at shooting data versus just lab testing) most of the 9mm, 40S&W and 45 ACP JHP rounds are about equal in "stopping power" with some having better characteristics in some areas than other rounds. One of the main reasons the FBI had adopted the certain loads they did was they were looking for penetration as the gurus felt that most of the shootouts the FBI had been and probably would be in would involve having to deal with barriers. So their rounds have usually dealt with penetration of car doors, etc...like everything with handguns the ammo itself is a compromise. And like a bureaucracy everywhere the guy in charge can dictate changes. The larger the agency the more the bureaucracy plays a role.

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Chief45 · « **Reply #66 on:** August 23, 2014, 03:30:00 pm »

Experience and Treachery will beat Youth and Enthusiasm every time.

I had one of my former officers come up to me the other day and formally apologize for what he put me through 12 years ago. He's serving as a FTO (field training officer) now. I laughed, hard.

Quote from: MTK20 on August 22, 2014, 01:08:34 pm

Thanks, Jesse.

I'm just too young to always know what elderly lingo you old guys are using on here .

MTK20 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 23, 2014, 05:28:24 pm »

Quote from: Chief45 on August 23, 2014, 03:30:00 pm

Experience and Treachery will beat Youth and Enthusiasm every time.

I had one of my former officers come up to me the other day and formally apologize for what he put me through 12 years ago. He's serving as a FTO (field training officer) now. I laughed, hard.

Sounds like an interesting story is in that. Assuming I read correctly (this being an officer younger than you, one whom you helped train, correct?). I often imagine any hell given would be from instructor to student, not the other way around

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At least you got an apology though.

alone · « **Reply #68 on:** August 23, 2014, 05:43:54 pm »

Quote from: MTK20 on August 22, 2014, 01:08:34 pm

Thanks, Jesse.

I'm just too young to always know what elderly lingo you old guys are using on here .

I resemble that elderly lingo remark.

Chief45 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 24, 2014, 12:56:13 am »

yeah, I brought him on as a reserve officer, then hired him full time, sent him through the academy, responded to his wrecks, got listed in a couple of lawsuits (we won those) and generally had an, interesting time.

You have some officers you have to jab with the hotshot and some you put a leash on to hold them back a bit. Him, I used a choke collar.

I always felt he was worth the investment. took a few years, but I was right.

Quote from: MTK20 on August 23, 2014, 05:28:24 pm

Sounds like an interesting story is in that. Assuming I read correctly (this being an officer younger than you, one whom you helped train, correct?). I often imagine any hell given would be from instructor to student, not the other way around .

At least you got an apology though.

MTK20 · « **Reply #70 on:** August 24, 2014, 01:56:00 am »

Quote from: Chief45 on August 24, 2014, 12:56:13 am

yeah, I brought him on as a reserve officer, then hired him full time, sent him through the academy, responded to his wrecks, got listed in a couple of lawsuits (we won those) and generally had an, interesting time.

You have some officers you have to jab with the hotshot and some you put a leash on to hold them back a bit. Him, I used a choke collar.

I always felt he was worth the investment. took a few years, but I was right.

Awesome

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Thanks for sharing.

Coronach · « **Reply #71 on:** August 24, 2014, 05:55:54 am »

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I'm sure if she were twenty years younger, MJ would love her right back.

No, he wouldn't. You said "she."

Mike

socalboy · « **Reply #72 on:** August 26, 2014, 09:53:36 am »

If you want to know all about cops, read the book "The Choirboys", it takes place in the Rampart Division in L.A. I think it was written by Joseph Wambaugh. If you can find it, I read it about 40 years ago.