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SHTF...Pistol choices
« on: November 16, 2012, 10:08:38 PM »
So there have been some pretty good threads on SHTF rifles but I noticed a lack of s___F pistol threads. So here's one, what is your choice of sidearm for when the world goes to heck in a handbasket? Why did you choose that platform and why that caliber?

For myself, right now its a FN Hi-Power in 9mm. 9mm is probably the most plentiful type of ammo out there or as by boss stated, "Every gangbanger and good ole boy around most likely has a 9mm so ammo shouldn't be a problem." I have to say I agree. But as soon as I can find a used but not abused Beretta 92FS or Glock 19 then it will probably change. Simply logistics on that part. With all the Berettas in military and Guard hands and Glocks in LEO's hands plus popularity by civilians, parts can be scavenged. So what is yours and why?
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 10:13:01 PM »
G19....reliable....37 parts total....good mag capacity...
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Re: SHTF...Pistol choices
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 10:18:43 PM »
For a short-term SHTF scenario I'd say any reliable 9mm would be fine. Adequate power and affordable ammo so it's easier to stock up. I'll stick with my SR9.

For a more TEOTWAWKI scenario, I might want a .38 or .357 revolver just because I won't lose any brass that way. My old M&P is the only gun I have in this category.

Either way, I wouldn't count on being able to scavenge what you don't already have.
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Re: SHTF...Pistol choices
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 10:28:49 PM »
9mm or .45 ACP generally speaking.  I prefer a 1911 style pistol simply because that is what I am most familiar with in terms of both shooting and maintenance.  Jesse's point is well taken though.  The .38/357 mag is an awfully versatile platform for 99% of what I would use a handgun for and if I had to have one for the ages it might well be a Ruger GP 100. 
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Re: SHTF...Pistol choices
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 10:37:34 PM »
Walther P99 in 9mm and/or Sig Sauer P229 in .357/.40

Only reasons being is that I already own both and I shoot pretty well with them.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 10:40:18 PM »
Just one? G19. If I can have two I would add my Taurus 605. Reasons stated above are pretty much what I'm thinking. I have the most mags and ammo for the Glock, and my second biggest supply of pistol ammo is .38/.357, so I wouldn't be counting on resupply in any but the longest of long term scenarios.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 10:45:04 PM »
1911, it is likely the gun I will be carrying if the crap hits the fan. As they say the gun at home when you need it does you no good, unless you happen to be at home.
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Re: SHTF...Pistol choices
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 11:23:48 PM »
One of my personal 1911's. For a generic answer ("good enough for everyone else") I'd say any major brand in a big 3 caliber. Your sidearm should be a backup weapon to your rifle if you're really expecting to fight roving hordes of mutant bandits.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 11:24:35 PM »
Already chosen. Beretta 92FS. I've got it in my "go home bag.*" When I'm out (when I know I won't have to go on base) I have an LAPG Bailout Bag in my truck with the 92FS and a dozen or so loaded mags, flashlight with batteries, other sundries, etc. It's what I plan to use to get back to the house, where the rifles are.

*I don't actually call it the "go home bag" but the real name is extremely suggestive and the filters won't catch it.
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Re: SHTF...Pistol choices
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2012, 12:28:28 AM »
  I view SHTF pistols the same as SHTF rifles; Don't expect to get ANYTHING.....

  I think there's not as many pistol topics because pistols are a LOOOOOT more suited to each user than rifles, Rifles, (setting aside barrel lengths) there's half the number of selections as handguns.   

   However my main "SHTF handgun" is my 226 Sig .40 caliber.   Mainly because it is "THE" handgun that just hits like it self-aims.     Anything past 50 yards out to 150 yards is dead meat, whereas otehr handguns is about a 100 yard max limit. And honestly anyone under 300 would be jumping damn hard.

   More punch than a 9mm if I have to use ball, but more capacity than a .45.  Another reason: .40 isn't as popular around here, during the '08 scare, 9mm and .45 ammo was gone and the prices jacked up?   .40 ammo was still around and only $2 more expensive than 9mm's......why not?  I've got a huge supply of factory .40 ammo and tons of brass that dad's reloading.

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2012, 12:45:53 AM »
For a short-term SHTF scenario I'd say any reliable 9mm would be fine. Adequate power and affordable ammo so it's easier to stock up. I'll stick with my SR9.

For a more TEOTWAWKI scenario, I might want a .38 or .357 revolver just because I won't lose any brass that way. My old M&P is the only gun I have in this category.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2012, 01:45:25 AM »
For close encounters, I'm in favor of whatever shoots well and has adequate capacity for speed dating.  In my case that's a full-sized 9mm of some flavor.  I have an XD in .40, but I don't shoot it well.  Too snappy.  I have a PT911 (9mm), but I'd prefer a CZ-75B.

However, that's more one-dimensionally focused on SD.

For more versatility, I would probably reach for the S&W 586-7, seven rounds of .38/.357 goodness from a four-inch barrel, broader range of applications, braod spectrum of loadings, and the brass doesn't wander off.

For longer term fan crapage, I'd be inclined to seriously consider something in a .22 pistol.  No, you're not going to reload the brass, but an epic stockpile of ammo can be had for a fraction of anything else.  Not advised for bear and elk, but it has consistent utility for tree rats, ground rats, fat rats, river rats,the occasional very-close-up deer, and so on.  If you're trekking, a couple hundred rounds carries better than half as much of anything else.

My immediate candidates are a Ruger MkII or something in a similar flavor (Colt Woodsman, etc.).  Good accuracy at reasonable ranges.

Thus, depending on the scenario, a 9mm service pistol for SD, a S&W 586-7 for SD + hunting, or a .22 autopistol for long-duration stayin' alive.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 05:05:11 AM »
I'd go with my S&W MP40.

Just about all of the armed agencies in the city use .40's of some kind, and in terms of ammo in stores, .40 is the new 9 up here.
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Re: SHTF...Pistol choices
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 07:35:08 AM »
Already made: Sig 226.

When I bought it I didn't have any handguns, and so the choice was made for what I'd want to have around in case of intruder/fun/ohcrapohcrapohcrap.  Next handgun purchase (for me) will likely be an alternate that would serve the same purposes, likely either a Beretta 92f or a .40 or .45 of some kind.  I haven't decided yet if I'd like to stick with all 9s or diversify a bit.


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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 07:51:08 AM »
Glock 17. It's the pistol I carry every day. I have 10 magazines loaded for it.  9mm would be all over as are parts. 
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2012, 08:08:42 AM »
Beretta 92A1, for all the reasons stated above, with the K9 as a backup, if I can/need to.

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 08:31:30 AM »
Already made: Sig 226.
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Sig P226 TacOps, 3 spare mags. After all it is TEOTWAWKI, so nobody cares your carrying a monster of a handgun right? No trying to conceal it, just 80 rounds of accurate and fast 9mm. If its good enough for competition, its good enough for zombie head shots, and repeated followup head shots =)
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2012, 08:51:44 AM »
The thing about SHTF hand guns, is that most of us carry hand guns in the normal range of calibers and our guns are usually very reliable, or we wouldn'g be carrying them.  So most of the hand guns we carry and own would fit the bill.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2012, 09:21:14 AM »
So most of the hand guns we carry and own would fit the bill.
Unless, of course, someone likes to carry a mouse gun...



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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2012, 09:51:49 AM »
Unless, of course, someone likes to carry a mouse gun...



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"Most" being the operative word... Maybe that's a good litmus test for your carry piece. If the SHTF, would you be comfortable using it to get home, bug out, whatever you envision yourself doing?
I read on another forum that the handgun you carry is a statement about you. The point being, do you care enough to carry a fighting handgun with at least one reload, or do you carry just enough to be able to say you're carrying? Food for thought. Obviously fighting spirit and luck could be just as important as whether you are rocking a SIG 229 or a Kel Tec P3AT.
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2012, 10:01:26 AM »
Unless, of course, someone likes to carry a mouse gun...



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Or at least a mousegun plus something else;) Personally I'd probably go to my 1911 and my pf9 or p3at bug but maybe some other combination but that's pretty close to what I carry now.

Note on concealment might not be as important as now for some things but I can think of some scenarios when you might not want to give up whether you're carrying or not.

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2012, 11:04:17 AM »
I don't dwell on this subject much, but my CZ P01 is the pistol I shoot the best with and I have the Kadet .22 kit for it. I figure I could take care of most issues with that set up.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2012, 11:17:47 AM »
I am making sure that I have a quality handgun and adequate mags available in all major calibers. This is less of a desire to be prepared for TEOTWAWKI and more a desire to collect the whole set ... but it works for TWOTWAWKI, too.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2012, 11:22:44 AM »
The thing about SHTF hand guns, is that most of us carry hand guns in the normal range of calibers and our guns are usually very reliable, or we wouldn'g be carrying them.  So most of the hand guns we carry and own would fit the bill.

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2012, 06:01:35 PM »
The replies are interesting when read. You can kinda see the priorities of each individual. So far I see the top three are: 1)Effectiveness with the weapon, 2)caliber, and 3)type of pistol. I guess the whole "what you carry tells something about you" is probably true to a certain extent.
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