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New duty G41
« on: October 02, 2016, 05:45:32 PM »
We've just been issued our new duty handgun, the Glock 41. It's an inch longer than our current G31's. I added the included beaver tail grip attachment and it feels great.

Except for that extra inch on the slide, it's the same size as a G17/22/31. The mag holds 13 rounds of .45ACP but the grip feels the same as the 17. Recoil is much less than the 1350fps .357Sig round we currently shoot. The cost is $50 less per case for Ranger 230gr JHP duty and $100 less per case case of Remington training FMJ compared to the .357Sig ammo. And it's much easier to find.

All in all, I like it a lot and I didn't care much for the Gen4's prior to this. I especially like the reversible mag release for our lefties. One of my buddies complained about the lack of a larger slide release but that's a non problem. I man rack my slides back into battery, not fiddlefart around with a tiny fairy-sized button RAAAAAH!!!

« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 05:57:42 PM by sarge712 »
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    Re: New duty G41
    « Reply #1 on: October 02, 2016, 06:35:15 PM »
    We've just been issued our new duty handgun, the Glock 41. It's an inch longer than our current G31's. I added the included beaver tail grip attachment and it feels great.

    Except for that extra inch on the slide, it's the same size as a G17/22/31. The mag holds 13 rounds of .45ACP but the grip feels the same as the 17. Recoil is much less than the 1350fps .357Sig round we currently shoot. The cost is $50 less per case for Ranger 230gr JHP duty and $100 less per case case of Remington training FMJ compared to the .357Sig ammo. And it's much easier to find.

    All in all, I like it a lot and I didn't care much for the Gen4's prior to this. I especially like the reversible mag release for our lefties. One of my buddies complained about the lack of a larger slide release but that's a non problem. I man rack my slides back into battery, not fiddlefart around with a tiny fairy-sized button RAAAAAH!!!



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    Re: New duty G41
    « Reply #2 on: October 02, 2016, 07:25:04 PM »
    The grip is the same thickness as the 17? And same depth front too back? This is interesting as the old G20/21 was too big for my hand.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 02, 2016, 10:52:24 PM »
    A long slide .45... Sidearm of Big Damn Heroes.   Proper.  I like it. :thumbup1
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    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2016, 12:47:45 PM »
    For a Glock that doesn't seem half bad.  :hmm
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    « Reply #5 on: October 03, 2016, 12:55:12 PM »
    The grip is the same thickness as the 17? And same depth front too back? This is interesting as the old G20/21 was too big for my hand.


    This caught my attention too.  Same thickness?  I just bought 2 Glock 17's for competition shooting.  Would love to have a 45ACP model to match the reset of my 45's.  I don't mind the longer slide as I pretty much only carry full-size guns.  I'm pretty much done with the sub-compacts.
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    « Reply #6 on: October 03, 2016, 01:11:30 PM »
    I like it. Wish our Sheriff would allow us to carry longslides.


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    « Reply #7 on: October 03, 2016, 01:36:35 PM »
    I like it. Wish our Sheriff would allow us to carry longslides.
    What is his objection?  That the longer sight radius might increase hit potential, and reduce errant rounds?  Or maybe that the increased muzzle velocity from the longer barrel might give the rounds just enough extra zip that occasionally a perp will need one fewer round to be stopped?  :coffee

    But then, is this the same sheriff who banned the use of personally owned patrol rifles so he could justify padding his budget to buy new ones?
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    « Reply #8 on: October 03, 2016, 01:48:56 PM »
    What is his objection?  That the longer sight radius might increase hit potential, and reduce errant rounds?  Or maybe that the increased muzzle velocity from the longer barrel might give the rounds just enough extra zip that occasionally a perp will need one fewer round to be stopped?  :coffee

    But then, is this the same sheriff who banned the use of personally owned patrol rifles so he could justify padding his budget to buy new ones?

    Liability or perceived liability and bad press. He doesn't want anything too tactical or to "powerful". No privately owned duty weapons. He stuck with the Mini-14 long after a number of problems came up with them before allowing AR-15s. He doesn't even really want red dot sights or lights or ammunition carriers but policy states that as long as it's not a "permanent" modification it's allowed for duty weapons. Our training cadre decides what's permanent and they're pretty lenient. The long slides are too "tactical" looking. They said the same thing about the magazine extensions and shotshell holders for our duty belt but it's not against policy.


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    « Reply #9 on: October 03, 2016, 02:07:03 PM »
    Which higher office is he gunning for?  It is not really a question of 'if.'  ::)
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    « Reply #10 on: October 03, 2016, 04:39:30 PM »
    Which higher office is he gunning for?  It is not really a question of 'if.'  ::)

    Not a clue. I've actually only spoken to him twice...when I was sworn in and at an inspection



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    Re: New duty G41
    « Reply #11 on: October 03, 2016, 05:18:27 PM »
    The grip is the same thickness as the 17? And same depth front too back? This is interesting as the old G20/21 was too big for my hand.

    Yes. There is a small difference since I added the beaver tail grip that came with it but it's very comparable and comfortable. The G21 I had was like holding a 2x4 with another 2x4 for a slide and I have large hands. I gave it to my son when he graduated boot camp. This 41 is much better.
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    I really like my G41 pistols.

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    Re: New duty G41
    « Reply #13 on: June 12, 2017, 12:29:04 PM »
    The G41 shares it's frame size with the Glock 20-21sf, 20-21 Gen4 and G40.  It will be notably smaller than the pre-SF frames, but still a bit larger than a 17.
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    « Reply #14 on: June 12, 2017, 02:40:39 PM »
    The G41 shares it's frame size with the Glock 20-21sf, 20-21 Gen4 and G40.  It will be notably smaller than the pre-SF frames, but still a bit larger than a 17.

    Random question, but I have the old 3rd gen model 30. Have they slimmed that thing down, or is it still the thickness of a redwood tree?
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    « Reply #15 on: June 12, 2017, 05:31:24 PM »
    The Glock website shows the width as 30.00 mm / 1.18 in. for a G17, and 32.5 mm / 1.28 in. for a G41.  but that reads as width of the slide. 
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    « Reply #16 on: June 17, 2017, 09:52:26 AM »
    The G41 shares it's frame size with the Glock 20-21sf, 20-21 Gen4 and G40.

    Yes sir, leave the back straps in the box and you have yourself a long slide SF .45 ACP

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    « Reply #17 on: June 17, 2017, 11:07:42 PM »
    One of my buddies complained about the lack of a larger slide release but that's a non problem. I man rack my slides back into battery, not fiddlefart around with a tiny fairy-sized button RAAAAAH!!!

    Off topic, but does anyone know of any departments/agencies that train to use the slide release?  I've not seen it outside of competion.
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    « Reply #18 on: June 17, 2017, 11:40:34 PM »
    Off topic, but does anyone know of any departments/agencies that train to use the slide release?  I've not seen it outside of competion.
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    « Reply #19 on: June 19, 2017, 08:07:45 AM »
    Off topic, but does anyone know of any departments/agencies that train to use the slide release?  I've not seen it outside of competion.

    We teach it as an option but not the primary means, that being the slide rack and release. A small few of ours do it as their way of dropping the slide but most slide rack.
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    « Reply #20 on: June 19, 2017, 11:33:22 PM »
    Beats me, but Holy S***, look who stopped by! :thumbup1
    Agreed.   :thumbup1  Long time - no see, bro'.   :cool
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    « Reply #21 on: June 20, 2017, 06:17:38 PM »
    Beats me, but Holy S***, look who stopped by! :thumbup1

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    « Reply #22 on: June 20, 2017, 06:18:07 PM »
    We teach it as an option but not the primary means, that being the slide rack and release. A small few of ours do it as their way of dropping the slide but most slide rack.

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