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Laughing at RIP Ammo.
« on: January 25, 2017, 08:48:25 PM »
I overheard someone talking about what I believe to be RIP ammo. Are people really still buying this gimmick? Can you even purchase this stuff anymore?  :banghead

I thought y'all could use some comic relief. Shall we go over once again why this is a horrible idea?



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    Re: Laughing at RIP Ammo.
    « Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 11:12:57 PM »
    "Pop the block with a glock!!!"  :facepalm

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    « Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 11:55:56 PM »
    I keep seeing it advertised around our area from time to time. I'm not sure why anyone would buy it, especially for the ridiculous price point they have it at.
    I prefer a round that stays together and dumps its energy in the target. Not something like the RIP. I will never buy even one round of their ammo.
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    « Reply #3 on: January 26, 2017, 02:37:25 AM »
    There are cases upon cases of this ammo available at my distributors.  Someone is buying it and someone is getting rich.  Their marketing team is very good.
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    Re: Laughing at RIP Ammo.
    « Reply #4 on: January 26, 2017, 08:50:24 AM »
    I see people buying it at every gun show. It's still a bullet, I wouldn't want to get shot with it. And for all I know it's the best defense round ever made, but this and eXtreme Shok and the like have such hokey packaging I can't take it seriously.
    I'm not saying you should use an M1A for home defense, but I'm also not saying you shouldn't.

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    « Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 09:31:45 AM »


    No... I can't take guys like this... or RIP seriously.   What kind of made for Spike TV bulls___ believer is really going to buy this for actual defensive carry?
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    « Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 12:21:16 PM »
    While we're at it, I'm trying to figure out if Ruger is selling gimmicks as well.

    http://www.ruger.com/micros/ammo/index.html?r=y
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    Re: Laughing at RIP Ammo.
    « Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 12:54:08 PM »
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    « Reply #8 on: January 26, 2017, 01:19:02 PM »


     :coffee

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    Re: Laughing at RIP Ammo.
    « Reply #9 on: January 26, 2017, 01:25:21 PM »
    Hornady too.

    http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax

    Well... I would call that more "tongue in cheek" than serious marketing... but it is the same bullet as their Critical Defense...

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    « Reply #10 on: January 26, 2017, 01:58:38 PM »


     :coffee

    The .45 didn't even fragment, yet it had reduced mass due to the cut aways. At that rate, wouldn't FMJ have done better?

    Well... I would call that more "tongue in cheek" than serious marketing... but it is the same bullet as their Critical Defense...

    Agreed. I like the zombie stuff.

    I wonder if anyone carries it for actual self defense though?  :hmm
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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #11 on: January 26, 2017, 02:29:20 PM »
    Well... I would call that more "tongue in cheek" than serious marketing... but it is the same bullet as their Critical Defense...

    Granted, it was based on a good performing bullet.

    But, it was $3.00-$4.00 a box more just for being Zombie themed.
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    « Reply #12 on: January 26, 2017, 02:37:23 PM »
    Granted, it was based on a good performing bullet.

    But, it was $3.00-$4.00 a box more just for being Zombie themed.

    Worth it for my wife's expression.  :D

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    « Reply #13 on: January 26, 2017, 02:39:17 PM »
    The .45 didn't even fragment, yet it had reduced mass due to the cut aways. At that rate, wouldn't FMJ have done better?

    Yeah the fragmentation isn't anything to brag about, but the wound cavitation looks impressive. I would want to see how it did on an anatomical dummy with internal organ representations... and I still wouldn't wanna be shot in the head with it.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 26, 2017, 03:11:15 PM »
    Yeah the fragmentation isn't anything to brag about, but the wound cavitation looks impressive. I would want to see how it did on an anatomical dummy with internal organ representations... and I still wouldn't wanna be shot in the head with it.

    Maybe Ruger is onto something with their ARX ammo  :shrug.

    I still like what I know to work. Maybe if there is a police department that switches to the stuff with good results, then I will be more inclined to purchase a box.
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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #15 on: January 26, 2017, 06:28:28 PM »
    Hornady too.

    http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax
    Hold on now.  Hornady is different here.
    Hornady Zombie Max is Promotional Ammo, generally a buck a box less than the Critical Defense loads... and has a Green Rubber filler instead of Red.  It's Tongue in Cheek... It's not trying to be The Ultimate Zombie Ammo, or like RIP, The Ultimate Tactical Terrorist Slayer.  They are just having a little fun with packaging and marketing.  Don't think so?  Pick up a box and read the label.  You will get a chuckle.
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    « Reply #16 on: January 27, 2017, 10:20:14 AM »
    I didn't mean to get any dander up, and I am not saying that the Zombie Max loads are in the same class of gimmick as RIP Ammo.  And the box is funny and it is clearly a joke about how marketing gimmicks sell ammo. 

    But, it is a gimmick at the same time meant to differentiate their product and sell more ammo.
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    « Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 01:16:56 PM »
    I bought Zombie Max ammo just for the box, was funny as all get out.
    I am sad to say i know someone who works for me who is absolutely in love with RIP ammo and carries it in his off duty sidearm. *sigh* At least he's a good shot, so he can put that thing in a good spot if need be.

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    « Reply #18 on: February 12, 2017, 04:11:05 AM »
    I've seen x-rays. It is an absolute b____ in surgery I bet, but for efficacy in the moment, it's not what I'd choose.
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    « Reply #19 on: February 12, 2017, 06:59:26 AM »
    It seems so strange that the biggest advance in pistol bullet design in recent years was bonded core bullets a la Gold Dot, and the best selling modern gimmick round is one that purposefully breaks up and loses mass when it hits a body.
    I thought that the FBI shooting in Miami showed that pistol bullets should penetrate a certain distance and not immediately break into small bits on impact.

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    « Reply #20 on: February 12, 2017, 08:03:05 AM »
    It seems so strange that the biggest advance in pistol bullet design in recent years was bonded core bullets a la Gold Dot, and the best selling modern gimmick round is one that purposefully breaks up and loses mass when it hits a body.
    I thought that the FBI shooting in Miami showed that pistol bullets should penetrate a certain distance and not immediately break into small bits on impact.

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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
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    « Reply #21 on: February 13, 2017, 11:21:08 AM »


    No... I can't take guys like this... or RIP seriously.   What kind of made for Spike TV bulls___ believer is really going to buy this for actual defensive carry?

    But they're ay-juntz. And so ee-fective they don't have to wear helmets. and the point guy is shooting it out of a shotgun
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    « Reply #22 on: February 13, 2017, 12:10:43 PM »
    With a red dot on it.

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    « Reply #23 on: February 13, 2017, 01:50:54 PM »
    Nothing wrong with a red dot on a shotgun, though I would prefer a more compact unit.
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    « Reply #24 on: February 13, 2017, 03:09:17 PM »
    But they're ay-juntz. And so ee-fective they don't have to wear helmets. and the point guy is shooting it out of a shotgun
    The other shotgun is BENT.  LOL.
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