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Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2016, 11:20:26 pm »
I really need to build out my centerfire revolver collection more.
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #26 on: November 30, 2016, 11:35:08 pm »
    There is also this: if God decides it's your time to go, and decides to collect you via a pack of gangbangers...  It's not going to matter if you are carrying an M4 carbine, or a S&W snub. ;)

    If I knew I was going to die anyway, I would rather they found my body holding an empty wheelgun, than a half-full Glock. :shrug

    That is an excellent quote, and philosophy.

    Along with that, I would like to add that...God does things in His own time, and until He calls me home...Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.  Definitely full speed.
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #27 on: November 30, 2016, 11:35:47 pm »
    I really need to build out my centerfire revolver collection more.

    That is certainly an excellent start.
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #28 on: November 30, 2016, 11:44:04 pm »
    Definitely appreciated.  Friendly chops busting scores big with me  :thumbup1

    Also, am reminded how I still have to work hard on expressing myself more clearly (has always been an issue for me).

    I feel you've been quite well written, from what you've posted so far  :cool.

    There is also this: if God decides it's your time to go, and decides to collect you via a pack of gangbangers...  It's not going to matter if you are carrying an M4 carbine, or a S&W snub. ;)

    If I knew I was going to die anyway, I would rather they found my body holding an empty wheelgun, than a half-full Glock. :shrug

    And if I had to guess, based upon your tastes, it'd be a pencil barrelled K frame at that  ;).

    There's a quotable quote if ever I heard one.

    New sig line?  :hmm
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #29 on: December 01, 2016, 12:12:03 am »
    And if I had to guess, based upon your tastes, it'd be a pencil barrelled K frame at that  ;).
    Pretty much.  A Model 10 with a barrel 5" or less, or a Model 19 or 66 in 3" or 4".

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    « Reply #30 on: December 01, 2016, 12:14:07 am »
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    « Reply #31 on: December 01, 2016, 11:56:48 am »
    I'm not much of a revolver guy.  I had one once, then I sold it.  It was cool at first but never did much for me.  I've contemplated getting another revolver so I can demonstrate how they work in my CCW class but those YouTube videos pretty much do the same thing without costing me additional $$$.

    I've thought about the Ruger LCR and the S&W Bodyguard but never went through with the purchase.
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #32 on: December 01, 2016, 12:00:08 pm »
    I feel you've been quite well written, from what you've posted so far  :cool.

    In that case, as a pal and fellow Yankee fan...don't ever imply that I'm ever a revolver apologist ever again, never ever ever!!!

    *feels cheap & dirty now, like a $20 hooker on the $50 side of town*

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    « Reply #33 on: December 01, 2016, 12:06:32 pm »
    In that case, as a pal and fellow Yankee fan...don't ever imply that I'm ever a revolver apologist ever again, never ever ever!!!

    *feels cheap & dirty now, like a $20 hooker on the $50 side of town*



     :rotfl

    To my defense, in addition to posting the Yankee vid, you also posted a JY vid and we both know his opinion on anything that isn't.... A Glock  :facepalm.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #34 on: December 01, 2016, 12:15:02 pm »
    I'm not much of a revolver guy.  I had one once, then I sold it.  It was cool at first but never did much for me.  I've contemplated getting another revolver so I can demonstrate how they work in my CCW class but those YouTube videos pretty much do the same thing without costing me additional $$$.

    I've thought about the Ruger LCR and the S&W Bodyguard but never went through with the purchase.

    I hear ya.  Go with what you're happy with. If you aren't interested in a J-frame size revolver,maybe a larger size if you're even going to bother with a revolver at all?



    If not, then double down on your beloved semi autos and enjoy em :)
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #35 on: December 01, 2016, 12:17:16 pm »
    :rotfl

    To my defense, in addition to posting the Yankee vid, you also posted a JY vid and we both know his opinion on anything that isn't.... A Glock  :facepalm.

    Ok,ok, I admit it, I'm even cheaper & dirtier for that reason alone  :doh

    I will say, JY has provided some of the most controversial entertainment on the Questionable side of the Gun Channels  :rotfl
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #36 on: December 01, 2016, 01:36:33 pm »
    I'm not an addict!  I can quit any time I want !
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #37 on: December 01, 2016, 01:51:27 pm »
    I'm not an addict!  I can quit any time I want !

    There is no Quit, there is only Buy

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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #38 on: December 01, 2016, 08:07:37 pm »
    There is no Quit, there is only Buy
    /quote]

    I didn't say I was gonna quit, just that I could, if I wanted to.  Besides, there's that new Redhawk .45 ACP/.45 Colt that I'm pretty sure would be just the thing to fill that little spot in the inventory.  If I can just find one to fingerprint!
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    « Reply #39 on: December 01, 2016, 08:09:35 pm »
    I didn't say I was gonna quit, just that I could, if I wanted to.  Besides, there's that new Redhawk .45 ACP/.45 Colt that I'm pretty sure would be just the thing to fill that little spot in the inventory.  If I can just find one to fingerprint!
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    « Reply #40 on: December 01, 2016, 08:53:05 pm »
    I'm not an addict!  I can quit any time I want !
    Who would want to quit? :scrutiny

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    « Reply #41 on: December 01, 2016, 09:01:13 pm »
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #42 on: December 01, 2016, 10:26:51 pm »
    I didn't say I was gonna quit, just that I could, if I wanted to.  Besides, there's that new Redhawk .45 ACP/.45 Colt that I'm pretty sure would be just the thing to fill that little spot in the inventory.  If I can just find one to fingerprint!

    And don't forget, if you ever use that firearm in a shooting, it will go live in an evidence locker for years...so you'll want two or more firearms for every caliber.

    To make it even more economical, buy several firearms that can use the same accessories.  And be sure to have extra accessories in case any are also seized by police after an incident.

    Plus, if you follow prepper websites, they do recommend having additional firearms for the more popular calibers stored off-site in bug out retreats in the event of martial law, or escaped government mechanized combat machines, or zombies.

    And it really wouldn't hurt to have alternate firearms for your favorite calibers set up with silver bullets for werewolves.  Even larger calibers in the event of rabies-infested giraffes or Richard Simmons customers...
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    « Reply #43 on: December 01, 2016, 10:32:05 pm »
    And don't forget, if you ever use that firearm in a shooting, it will go live in an evidence locker for years...so you'll want two or more firearms for every caliber.

    To make it even more economical, buy several firearms that can use the same accessories.  And be sure to have extra accessories in case any are also seized by police after an incident.

    Plus, if you follow prepper websites, they do recommend having additional firearms for the more popular calibers stored off-site in bug out retreats in the event of martial law, or Terminators, or zombies.

    And it really wouldn't hurt to have alternate firearms for your favorite calibers set up with silver bullets for werewolves.  Even larger calibers in the event of rabies-infested giraffes or Richard Simmons customers...

    I meant to suggest to you that you must read Larry Correia's Monster Hunter International series. Honestly, I'm not sure how I haven't been banned for not getting to the third book yet :hide .
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    « Reply #44 on: December 02, 2016, 12:00:40 am »
    Thank you kindly, I haven't read a good fiction series in quite a while.  I'll put this at the top of the list for "next one to try".
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    « Reply #45 on: December 02, 2016, 12:19:59 am »
    So, kind of random, but I found nightcrawlers quote from a year ago that had some kernels of wisdom for us revolver guys. This was the quote I was referencing in an earlier post. I like it because unlike JW and Yankee, NC is one of our own  :cool.

    A larger magazine is not a substitute for practice.  If someone is coming at you with intent to do harm, you not only have limited ammunition, you have limited time.  In many, if not most cases, you will run out of time before you run out of ammunition.  I understand having limited time and limited funds; I understand it good and well, believe me.  But if you're not confident with a revolver because you don't shoot enough, bluntly, you shouldn't feel too confident with a semiauto, either.  In this situation, the gun is not the problem.  Fumbling a draw or missing the critical first shots will get you in trouble no matter how big your magazine is.
     

    Yes, and every day.

    No.  The advantages of a semiauto over a revolver do not change the fact that it's still just a handgun, with all of the limitations that brings.  Don't let the big magazine give you false confidence.

    If you get attacked by half a dozen armed thugs, you can still only shoot in one direction at once.  A lone guy with a belt-fed is similarly out-gunned by a squad with bolt action rifles.  There are scenarios in which you, by yourself, with a handgun, are not likely to prevail.  Changing the handgun from one kind to another is, in my opinion, not likely to change that dynamic by any appreciable degree.

    Bear in mind this is just me.  There are plenty, plenty of people out there, experienced instructors and self-styled "gunfighters", who will tell you that carrying a revolver is just dumb.  So take my opinion for what it's worth; I haven't spent a lot of time "on the street", and there are people who have who will vehemently disagree with me.

    Me, personally?  I can't imagine a lot of realistic situations in which I feel I'd be killed with my SP101, but would prevail with, say, a Glock 19.  I'd have carried my GP100 in Afghanistan if I could have gotten away with it.

    For what it's worth, just like with everything else, from the amount of insurance you carry to your driving habits, it depends on what you're comfortable with, how you "feel".  Most people feel they're being safe until they screw up and get hurt.  Most people feel they're driving safely until they plow into another car.  Most shooters carry however much gun they imagine will carry them through whatever scenarios they think they might encounter.

    The trick, of course, is that you actually have no idea what kind of scenario you might encounter.

    I blame Kaso for this find. We talked about my Smith & Wesson pre-model 10 in one of his threads and it got me to thinking about all the wonderful K frame options out there that I don't own yet.

    Nightcrawler and Strangelittleman are very knowledgeable in wheelguns and they demonstrate it well here in this thread.

    Keep in mind that this thread is over a year old, so please read, but don't resurrect it  ;).

    I knew we had a good convo some where around here on the subject, though, and I am glad that I found it and dusted it off.
    « Last Edit: December 02, 2016, 12:37:52 am by MTK20 »
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #46 on: December 02, 2016, 04:08:43 am »
    I love K frame Smiths, have three currently. Also love J frames / compatibles, have two Rugers currently. Want to add more.  I'm a dedicated revolver user.

    Thanks for sharing the post.  I can appreciate what he's trying to communicate.  To be honest, he does frame things in a way to confirm his bias and makes a lot of assumptions in his statements...given that he doesn't know who / what situation / which location he is referring to when addressing others.  How he describes himself though seems reasonable enough.

    I'm fairly certain the majority of police and military personnel would disagree with him (based on the switch to semi autos).  Most of the gun owners I know personally  would, and would cite capacity / trigger / recoil / reload reasons.

    I'm firmly in the revolver camp, though I can "imagine" scenarios where having 18 rounds in a reliable service pistol with two extra 17 round magazines would be preferable to 6 rounds from a revolver with two 6 round speed loaders or strips.  However I couldn't tell you how likely for a civilian those scenarios would be, especially given how different areas can vary for crime or dog packs.

    But for my entire gun ownership, you would find me with a revolver or two, and speed loaders / strips.  I own (for now) strictly .38 Special revolvers that I carry +P loads in.  I'm thinking about adding a full size .357 Magnum model.  I might drop the idea of getting a 9mm and go that route instead.
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    « Reply #47 on: December 02, 2016, 08:11:57 am »
    Why not get both?  :cool
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #48 on: December 02, 2016, 12:09:10 pm »
    Why not get both?  :cool

    I guess it comes down to "what new thing do I want to get" vs "what will I actually use"  :rotfl

    I know myself pretty well...even with the nicest semi autos at my disposal, I would end up using my revolvers for all things (that apply to my current situation).  I was the same way with electric bass guitars, I used the traditional 4 string basses even after having tried the newer 5 and 6 string models.  I would set up multiple 4 string instruments to cover all the different tunings instead of using 1 newer model with more strings to do it all, because that's where my heart was.

    Nostalgic?  Stubborn?  Old School?  Biased?  All of these, probably  :D
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    Re: I'm A Revolver Addict
    « Reply #49 on: December 02, 2016, 09:17:38 pm »
    Also considering getting one of these 442s for an alternate snub.  This is the GD load I use these days.

    "We shoot the S&W 442 revolver with Speer 135 gr .38 Special HP +P through 2x4 wood barrier and water jug"
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