Help support WeTheArmed.com by visiting our sponsors.

Author Topic: Need S&W barrel help  (Read 360 times)

Kaso

  • Senior Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 6332
  • WTA Hardline Antagonist (aka: Jerk)

  • Offline
Need S&W barrel help
« on: March 03, 2017, 09:35:37 AM »
Lately I have been on a kick for a 3" Square butt Model 19.  The most logical way to get one would be to have a plentiful 4" model rebarreled.  Obviously a 3" barrel would be the harder part to find, so I searched for one of those first.  I ordered one from Gunbroker, and it came in yesterday.

Here is where my confusion starts.  I used the stock picture on Numrich's (out of stock) 3" barrel (which links from the Model 19 parts list) as a guide for what to look for:
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1055270.htm

Now, after handling the barrel, I am pretty sure that the front sight is set too low for the adjustable Model 19 sights.  I think it is for a fixed-sight Model 13.  (Keep in mind, my barrel looks exactly like the Numrich stock photo.)

Any thoughts?  Could I use this magnum barrel to rebarrel a Model 10?  Or do I need to look for a Model 13?  I am not really crazy about fixed sight revolvers, so that makes it harder.

Thank you in advance for any input.
Donald J Trump, by the Grace of God: 45th president of the United States.
20 January 2017, 12:01pm
Here's to a great four years!

WeTheArmed.com

  • Advertisement
  • ***

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 5336
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Online
    Re: Need S&W barrel help
    « Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 10:58:22 AM »
    Sorry man, I love Smith's, but I'm not sure on this one  :shrug.

    *paging Jesse*
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    Kaso

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 6332
    • WTA Hardline Antagonist (aka: Jerk)

    • Offline
    Re: Need S&W barrel help
    « Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 11:29:46 AM »
    Sorry man, I love Smith's, but I'm not sure on this one  :shrug.

    *paging Jesse*
    Jesse, yes, but SLM would probably know off the top of his head.  Shame.
    Donald J Trump, by the Grace of God: 45th president of the United States.
    20 January 2017, 12:01pm
    Here's to a great four years!

    JesseL

    • Gun Mangler
    • WTA Staff
    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 12450

    • Offline
    Re: Need S&W barrel help
    « Reply #3 on: March 03, 2017, 01:23:59 PM »
    A barrel for a .357 probably isn't going to work on a .38 without a lot of work, since the shank will be shorter to accomodate the longer cylinder. The shoulder could be turned back on a lathe to give you a longer shank, but then you've got to modify the ejector shroud... It quickly becomes a major PITA.

    Putting a barrel from a .38 Special gun on a .357 would be much easier, since you'd just need to retime it, shorten the shank and recut the forcing cone.

    I'm not sure about the sight height issue, but geometry says shorter barrels should require taller front sights than longer barrels to generate the same POI.

    To work with the barrel you have, your best bet is to use a model 13 frame.

    To get the 3" model 19 you want, you might just need to have a taller front sight put on the barrel you've got to use with a mod 19 frame.
    Arizona

    Kaso

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 6332
    • WTA Hardline Antagonist (aka: Jerk)

    • Offline
    Re: Need S&W barrel help
    « Reply #4 on: March 03, 2017, 02:00:26 PM »
    To get the 3" model 19 you want, you might just need to have a taller front sight put on the barrel you've got to use with a mod 19 frame.
    And the solution was so simple that I looked right past it.  :facepalm  This would also allow the use of a custom front sight - something I wouldn't mind having anyway.

    Thanks Jesse!
    Donald J Trump, by the Grace of God: 45th president of the United States.
    20 January 2017, 12:01pm
    Here's to a great four years!

    MTK20

    • Senior Contributor
    • *****
    • Posts: 5336
    • Mind of a philosopher, mouth of a sailor.

    • Online
    Re: Need S&W barrel help
    « Reply #5 on: March 03, 2017, 02:14:16 PM »
    Jesse, yes, but SLM would probably know off the top of his head.  Shame.

    Agreed. Guy was great with revolvers.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

    Help support WeTheArmed.com by visiting our sponsors.