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Re: Need advice on a BHP
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2017, 11:39:30 PM »
It was only a Mecgar.  Fortunately.

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I've always found the quality of Mecgar magazines to be quite respectable. I actually would like to get more for my Sig.
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Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: Need advice on a BHP
    « Reply #76 on: March 21, 2017, 11:52:17 PM »
    I'd ask for them to send it back,  but I don't think I'd bother doing more than that.  It's just not worth the aggravation judging by your previous experience.
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    « Reply #77 on: March 21, 2017, 11:56:03 PM »
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    I've always found the quality of Mecgar magazines to be quite respectable. I actually would like to get more for my Sig.
    They are good magazines, and they are a whole lot less expensive than a factory Browning mag would be.  If I had to pick one to lose...

    I will call them once, but that's it.  A $20 magazine is only worth so many minutes of my time.
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    « Reply #78 on: March 22, 2017, 12:19:49 AM »
    I'd call and send an email just so you have something written down.   Other than that though, not worth the hassle. 
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    « Reply #79 on: March 22, 2017, 04:19:39 PM »
    I called and talked to their new gunsmithing person.  He was a previous employee, so not a new guy.  He apologized and said he would look around.  He also said that if they can't find it... They are willing to send a new one.  Honestly, if that is the attitude they have toward it, I don't need a new one from them.  Too much hassle on everyone's part.

    Most surprisingly, they did not attempt to blame the fired gunsmith for losing it, and instead affirmed that it had been with the gun even after he had been terminated.  I know that blaming recently fired employees for *whatever* is a very common thing, but... they chose not to.  Add in the fact that they offered to ship the pistol back for free to compensate for the delays. (which I declined, as I wanted to have it insured for a certain amount)

     I am starting to wonder if I am judging them wrong.  They have a poor reputation in local circles...  But I have been on the other hat dynamic, and I realize that one sided perception can be unfair.  I'm wondering.
    « Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 04:32:04 PM by Kaso »
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    « Reply #80 on: March 23, 2017, 10:13:57 PM »
    This Cluster fluff has me completely and utterly dismayed.  I don't believe this could have happened.   
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    « Reply #81 on: March 23, 2017, 11:22:02 PM »
    This Cluster fluff has me completely and utterly dismayed.  I don't believe this could have happened.   
    Eh, people get canned all of the time.  Were it not for that, I would probably still have my pistol back by now, only it would be fixed. :shrug
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    « Reply #82 on: March 24, 2017, 07:54:47 PM »
    Update: I dropped the Kareen off at Allegheny Gun Works to continue the work, on a personal recommendation of the previous gunsmith who was working on it. (and who got it to within 2.5" of POA)

    Allegheny Gun Works (more commonly known for their Beretta 92 'G' conversions) is owned by a relatively young AF vet, and staffed primarily by vets.  Their service is attentive, and their prices are very reasonable by Brick and Mortar standards. 

    What is more, Josh (owner/gunsmith) puts off a very good vibe, making me comfortable to have him work with my toys.  Serious and Sharp.  I don't like my gunsmiths to be open and happy, which is why I don't use a gunsmith literally 15 minutes away...  If you smile as a 'default setting,' I don't bring my guns to you.  But this guy is good.  Fingers crossed that I will have a properly functioning pistol by Summer.  :thumbup1
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    « Reply #83 on: March 24, 2017, 11:42:38 PM »
    At this point you realize that you owe us updates .  .  .   :cool
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    Re: Need advice on a BHP
    « Reply #84 on: March 25, 2017, 12:03:39 PM »
    Update: I dropped the Kareen off at Allegheny Gun Works to continue the work, on a personal recommendation of the previous gunsmith who was working on it. (and who got it to within 2.5" of POA)

    Allegheny Gun Works (more commonly known for their Beretta 92 'G' conversions) is owned by a relatively young AF vet, and staffed primarily by vets.  Their service is attentive, and their prices are very reasonable by Brick and Mortar standards. 

    What is more, Josh (owner/gunsmith) puts off a very good vibe, making me comfortable to have him work with my toys.  Serious and Sharp.  I don't like my gunsmiths to be open and happy, which is why I don't use a gunsmith literally 15 minutes away...  If you smile as a 'default setting,' I don't bring my guns to you.  But this guy is good.  Fingers crossed that I will have a properly functioning pistol by Summer.  :thumbup1

    Small detour, but I couldn't agree more on smiles, Kaso. I feel it's unprofessional and that people have wrongly abandoned the virtue of gravitas. People who have that as their default make me have the urge to guard my wallet, because you know they are trying to get something out of you... It's a disarming tactic, just like the making of small talk.

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    « Reply #85 on: March 25, 2017, 04:21:12 PM »
    At this point you realize that you owe us updates .  .  .   :cool
    I have no idea what you mean.
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    « Reply #86 on: March 25, 2017, 04:25:25 PM »
    I have no idea what you mean.

    He's saying that you've kept us in suspense this long, so now you are obligated to "finish" out the story by telling us what the end results are  ;).
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #87 on: March 25, 2017, 04:31:25 PM »
    He's saying that you've kept us in suspense this long, so now you are obligated to "finish" out the story by telling us what the end results are  ;).
    I see.  No, the 'suspense' is just how long I was waiting to get it back from Tannermans.  They had it for six months, no exaggeration.  Including a full month of me trying to get it back from them.

    Trust me, I want this pistol back as quickly as possible.  I bought it the day before the 2012 election, and since then it has been 'out' for more time than it has been in my possession.
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    « Reply #88 on: March 25, 2017, 05:21:40 PM »
    I see.  No, the 'suspense' is just how long I was waiting to get it back from Tannermans.  They had it for six months, no exaggeration.  Including a full month of me trying to get it back from them.

    Trust me, I want this pistol back as quickly as possible. I bought it the day before the 2012 election, and since then it has been 'out' for more time than it has been in my possession.

    :hide That's horrible. I must admit that when you get it back, it is a very fine looking pistol. I don't even know what a stock Browning Hi-Power goes for, but with all the work you've put into yours... I can't imagine how much even the Kareem costs, even if it is regarded as a "cheaper" browning.

    How did you get adjustable sights on yours, btw? IIRC correctly, you have a threaded barrel, can, and elevated sights for it?

    It's been a while since you've posted pics of it, but I remember it being really souped up.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #89 on: March 25, 2017, 05:44:12 PM »
    Partial thread derail, but I took my AR-15 in to Allegheny Gun Works this afternoon. I concur wholeheartedly with Kaso's recommendation. The staff is very attentive, very knowledgeable, and friendly without being "too friendly." And they are honest too. I explained to the gunsmith (Josh? I didn't think to get his name) that I feared I'd over-torqued the castle nut and receiver extension and asked him to take a look at them. He did so, and told me that I had over-torqued it and had "tweaked" (his words) the threads on the receiver extension a little as a result, but not enough to do any damage to the rifle or make the extension overly difficult to remove, so it didn't need to be replaced, and everything else on the rifle looked good. They didn't even offer to sell me a new receiver extension.

    That right there sold me on him and on Allegheny Gun Works in general. It was pretty clear that I really didn't know my stuff, and they could have said that I'd damaged the receiver extension, castle nut, receiver extension, or even the receiver (or some combination thereof) and tried to sell me replacement parts that I didn't know enough to know that I didn't need. But they didn't. They only charged me there standard (and very reasonable, in my admittedly-uneducated opinion) fee to remove/replace the receiver extension, which they torqued and staked to spec.

    So two solid thumbs-up to Allegheny Gun Works. I think I'll stick with my usual LGS for ordering parts and accessories, but I'll be taking any gunsmithing work to AGW. I've been thinking about having some work done on my Range Officer Compact (AGW offers Cerakoting too), so maybe if/when I have the $$$ to do so, I'll take it to them.
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    « Reply #90 on: March 25, 2017, 07:27:49 PM »
    How did you get adjustable sights on yours, btw? IIRC correctly, you have a threaded barrel, can, and elevated sights for it?

    It's been a while since you've posted pics of it, but I remember it being really souped up.
    It has a taller front sight, but not a suppressor sight.  It was installed to compensate for the POA/POI discrepancy, not to clear the suppressor tube.  Same for the adjustable rear.

    Besides that, threaded barrel, ring hammer, carved wood grips, and a Graphite Black cerakote finish.
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    « Reply #91 on: March 25, 2017, 07:32:04 PM »

    I explained to the gunsmith (Josh? I didn't think to get his name)...
    Josh is the shop owner and gunsmith.  Dark hair, high and tight.  Razor sharp.
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    « Reply #92 on: March 25, 2017, 08:00:21 PM »
    Josh is the shop owner and gunsmith.  Dark hair, high and tight.  Razor sharp.

    Yep, that was him.
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