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getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
« on: June 09, 2010, 12:36:56 pm »
Actually, I need the part for a "Ted Williams Model 300" 12 gauge auto-gun that was purchased at Sears about 20+ years ago.  It belongs to a friend of mine and to do him a favor I told him to bring it over and I'd clean and lube it for him, since he hadn't touched it in about 15 years.  While re-assembling it, I lost the "ejector retaining pin", a tiny little pin maybe 1/16" diameter and maybe 1/4" long.

From other research I've learned that this shotgun is basically a Winchester 1400.  Numrich does not carry this part I need.  Can anyone recommend to me where to look for the part, or even better, give me specs for it so that I can make one?  I have access to machinery to do this, and I know a gunsmith who'd just make me one if I ask, it's just that I'd rather simply buy the proper part if I can locate one.

Any ideas/recommendations?

The part is part number 23102 (ejector retaining pin) in this diagram (my apologies for it being such a huge diagram):

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    Re: getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
    « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 12:40:04 pm »
    I don't suppose you could mic or gage the hole and hand-fit a similar-sized pin?

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    Re: getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
    « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 01:05:02 pm »
    I don't suppose you could mic or gage the hole and hand-fit a similar-sized pin?

    Ben

    That's probably what I'll do.  (Just checked a few more online parts places without luck).
    For now I have a piece of pipe cleaner (with white fuzz on it) stuck into that hole in the receiver, so the gun will function.  I'll probably end up getting a variety of small dowels and experimenting until I find a snug fit.

    If I get REALLY lucky I might find the part.  I was using a pair of hemostats as tweezers to put it in the hole and must have squeezed too tightly.  SPROING!  I heard it hit something in the middle of my garage and that's still where it is.  Lost an AR15 detent pin spring like that 6 months ago and found it last night while crawling around on my hands and knees looking for this other pin.   :doh

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    Re: getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 01:26:41 pm »
    I'd think you could use a small piece of drill rod and sand it down to fit tightly.
    Small parts are a pain when they go flying.  I had a FLGR cap go flying at the range into a pile of similarly sized and colored spent shells.  Never found it.

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    Re: getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
    « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 03:22:31 pm »
    That looks tiny enough that I wouldn't start with drill rod.  Piano wire - basically spring tempered round wire, also called music wire, etc... - can be bought in hobby stores and it is a good bet that they will have a fractional size that will fit right in.

    It's nice to have some of it around anyway, as you can fashion all kinds of useful things out of it.  I once made a conical spring out of some to replace the tiny spring in the rear tangent sight of a Chinese contract John Inglis High Power.
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    Re: getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 06:26:06 am »
    That looks tiny enough that I wouldn't start with drill rod.  Piano wire - basically spring tempered round wire, also called music wire, etc... - can be bought in hobby stores and it is a good bet that they will have a fractional size that will fit right in.

    It's nice to have some of it around anyway, as you can fashion all kinds of useful things out of it.  I once made a conical spring out of some to replace the tiny spring in the rear tangent sight of a Chinese contract John Inglis High Power.

    That sounds like an interesting idea.  I had thought of trying to use the shank of a drill bit, but that'd be difficult all right.  THis wire idea sounds like a good one.  The other little problem I have is that I'm not totally sure how long this thing needs to be.  Just long enough to poke through the side of the receiver and go through the sheet metal ejector.  Wire would be easier to cut to length once I get it close.

    THanks everyone for the suggestions!  Finding a retail piece like this seems unlikely, and I didn't know that yesterday.

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    Re: getting a spare pin for a Winchester Model 1400?
    « Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 08:46:46 am »
    Well, I suppose I have some unusually tiny drill bits.

    Ben

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