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Those Gun Bans really work...
« on: July 29, 2009, 11:24:29 AM »
More Than A Dozen Shot In Chicago Overnight
7 Victims In One Attack; Total Of 14 Hurt Over Four Hours

Now wait a durn minute here?
Didn't that Community get Organized?

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.overnight.shootings.2.1105574.html

 June 2 (Bloomberg) -- A Chicago ordinance banning handguns and automatic weapons within city limits was upheld by a U.S. Court of Appeals panel, which rejected a challenge by the National Rifle Association.

The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, didn't apply to states and municipalities.

"The Supreme Court has rebuffed requests to apply the second amendment to the states," U.S. Circuit Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote, upholding lower court decisions last year to throw out suits against Chicago and its suburb of Oak Park.

Gun Free Zones are Kill Zones. As the article states over half occurred on the West Side, not the South Side.
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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 11:51:33 AM »
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More Than A Dozen Shot In Chicago Overnight

Mother what a night it really was! Shanananana.

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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 11:52:57 AM »
I guess more bans are neccessary to prevent this from ever happening again.

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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 12:04:37 PM »
Gun control "protects" you from being able to shoot back. After all, doesn't the criminal have rights?  :bs

You just can't fix stupid. If we could, Chicago would not exist.

Liberals seldom allow facts to interfere with their hysteria.
 Want proof? Chicago.


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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2009, 12:58:00 PM »
Gun control "protects" you from being able to shoot back. After all, doesn't the criminal have rights?  :bs

You just can't fix stupid. If we could, Chicago would not exist.

Liberals seldom allow facts to interfere with their hysteria.
 Want proof? Chicago.




Good call.

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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 07:17:33 PM »
Gun control "protects" you from being able to shoot back. After all, doesn't the criminal have rights?

Nice. 

I like to think that I'm protecting the criminal's rights by shooting him.  If I didn't, he'd eventually end up in jail where he gets raped in the shower.  That's a clear violation of his rights.

By shooting back, I make sure that never happens. :P
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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 08:35:44 PM »
This could have been avoided.  It did not need to happen...

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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 06:10:51 PM »

The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, didn't apply to states and municipalities.
 
I would keep appealing that case to higher authorities. So under this law, the united states allows people to carry guns, unless their mayor decides that they aren't allowed. That's dumb and maybe indicative of the attitude in that part of the country.

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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 11:21:54 PM »
Gun bans are designed to protect democrat constituents...  The criminals

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Re: Those Gun Bans really work...
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 03:24:42 AM »


The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, didn't apply to states and municipalities.



Did they mention any of the other rights guaranteed under the US Constitution? If states can ignore one, why not them all?
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 05:54:14 PM »
It's all about control, not just gun control.  The folks in those neighborhoods are slaves to a corrupt political system, a system that is fed by Mayor Daley, Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, and the like.  They don't realize that putting your trust in the government will only make life worse.  Welfare and a terrible education system contribute to what you see. 

There have been a few that have stood up but they eventually tire and move on.

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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2009, 11:59:08 PM »
Did they mention any of the other rights guaranteed under the US Constitution? If states can ignore one, why not them all?

It's part of the madness implicit in the picky-choosy judicialist approach we have to incorporation right now.

Originally, the Bill of Rights wasn't meant to apply to the states at all because it was the states themselves that insisted on it.   It was understood that the states had no incentive to violate a Constitutional provision that they, themselves, insisted upon.

As time went on, state sovereignty got molested like a 13-year-old on MySpace and consequently, states started acting about as mature as 13-year-old MySpace users.  So it became necessary to keep them under wraps.

Incorporating parts of the Constitution to apply to states has since been an incoherent patchwork of activist judge mayhem.

Solution:  Change our attitudes.  Stop expecting the feds to protect us form our states and, instead, stand up to our states.  Force some accountability in your state government.  Then, expect your state government to do the very same thing to the feds.

But yeah... that's quintillions times easier said than done.
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