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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2016, 09:05:58 PM »
I agree that Ms. Paglia has the whole thing pretty much figured out.  Ms. Hoff Sommers sounds pretty well grounded as well.   

As far as "slam poetry", I think it was preceded and generally outclassed by most of what I was reading on the restroom walls in high school.

In less civilized times being loud and obnoxious was not considered a survival trait.   :coffee
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    « Reply #26 on: September 04, 2016, 09:55:48 PM »
    In less civilized times being loud and obnoxious was not considered a survival trait.   :coffee

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    « Reply #27 on: September 04, 2016, 10:08:04 PM »
    Never heard of her. When you get the chance, you should post some of her preferred writings/interviews  :cool.

    Here is one of many good ones about Paglia:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303997604579240022857012920

    Camille Paglia: A Feminist Defense of Masculine Virtues
    The cultural critic on why ignoring the biological differences between men and women risks undermining Western civilization
    By BARI WEISS
    Updated Dec. 28, 2013 10:46 p.m. ET
    Philadelphia

    'What you're seeing is how a civilization commits suicide," says Camille Paglia. This self-described "notorious Amazon feminist" isn't telling anyone to Lean In or asking Why Women Still Can't Have It All. No, her indictment may be as surprising as it is wide-ranging: The military is out of fashion, Americans undervalue manual labor, schools neuter male students, opinion makers deny the biological differences between men and women, and sexiness is dead. And that's just 20 minutes of our three-hour conversation.

    When Ms. Paglia, now 66, burst onto the national stage in 1990 with the publishing of "Sexual Personae," she immediately established herself as a feminist who was the scourge of the movement's establishment, a heretic to its orthodoxy. Pick up the 700-page tome, subtitled "Art and Decadence From Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson," and it's easy to see why. "If civilization had been left in female hands," she wrote, "we would still be living in grass huts."

    The fact that the acclaimed book—the first of six; her latest, "Glittering Images," is a survey of Western art—was rejected by seven publishers and five agents before being printed by Yale University Press only added to Ms. Paglia's sense of herself as a provocateur in a class with Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern. But unlike those radio jocks, Ms. Paglia has scholarly chops: Her dissertation adviser at Yale was Harold Bloom, and she is as likely to discuss Freud, Oscar Wilde or early Native American art as to talk about Miley Cyrus.

     ENLARGE
    NEIL DAVIES
    Ms. Paglia relishes her outsider persona, having previously described herself as an egomaniac and "abrasive, strident and obnoxious." Talking to her is like a mental CrossFit workout. One moment she's praising pop star Rihanna ("a true artist"), then blasting ObamaCare ("a monstrosity," though she voted for the president), global warming ("a religious dogma"), and the idea that all gay people are born gay ("the biggest canard," yet she herself is a lesbian).

    But no subject gets her going more than when I ask if she really sees a connection between society's attempts to paper over the biological distinction between men and women and the collapse of Western civilization.


    She starts by pointing to the diminished status of military service. "The entire elite class now, in finance, in politics and so on, none of them have military service—hardly anyone, there are a few. But there is no prestige attached to it anymore. That is a recipe for disaster," she says. "These people don't think in military ways, so there's this illusion out there that people are basically nice, people are basically kind, if we're just nice and benevolent to everyone they'll be nice too. They literally don't have any sense of evil or criminality."

    The results, she says, can be seen in everything from the dysfunction in Washington (where politicians "lack practical skills of analysis and construction") to what women wear. "So many women don't realize how vulnerable they are by what they're doing on the street," she says, referring to women who wear sexy clothes.

    When she has made this point in the past, Ms. Paglia—who dresses in androgynous jackets and slacks—has been told that she believes "women are at fault for their own victimization." Nonsense, she says. "I believe that every person, male and female, needs to be in a protective mode at all times of alertness to potential danger. The world is full of potential attacks, potential disasters." She calls it "street-smart feminism."

    Ms. Paglia argues that the softening of modern American society begins as early as kindergarten. "Primary-school education is a crock, basically. It's oppressive to anyone with physical energy, especially guys," she says, pointing to the most obvious example: the way many schools have cut recess. "They're making a toxic environment for boys. Primary education does everything in its power to turn boys into neuters."

    She is not the first to make this argument, as Ms. Paglia readily notes. Fellow feminist Christina Hoff Sommers has written about the "war against boys" for more than a decade. The notion was once met with derision, but now data back it up: Almost one in five high-school-age boys has been diagnosed with ADHD, boys get worse grades than girls and are less likely to go to college.

    Ms. Paglia observes this phenomenon up close with her 11-year-old son, Lucien, whom she is raising with her ex-partner, Alison Maddex, an artist and public-school teacher who lives 2 miles away. She sees the tacit elevation of "female values"—such as sensitivity, socialization and cooperation—as the main aim of teachers, rather than fostering creative energy and teaching hard geographical and historical facts.

    By her lights, things only get worse in higher education. "This PC gender politics thing—the way gender is being taught in the universities—in a very anti-male way, it's all about neutralization of maleness." The result: Upper-middle-class men who are "intimidated" and "can't say anything. . . . They understand the agenda." In other words: They avoid goring certain sacred cows by "never telling the truth to women" about sex, and by keeping "raunchy" thoughts and sexual fantasies to themselves and their laptops.

    Politically correct, inadequate education, along with the decline of America's brawny industrial base, leaves many men with "no models of manhood," she says. "Masculinity is just becoming something that is imitated from the movies. There's nothing left. There's no room for anything manly right now." The only place you can hear what men really feel these days, she claims, is on sports radio. No surprise, she is an avid listener. The energy and enthusiasm "inspires me as a writer," she says, adding: "If we had to go to war," the callers "are the men that would save the nation."

    And men aren't the only ones suffering from the decline of men. Women, particularly elite upper-middle-class women, have become "clones" condemned to "Pilates for the next 30 years," Ms. Paglia says. "Our culture doesn't allow women to know how to be womanly," adding that online pornography is increasingly the only place where men and women in our sexless culture tap into "primal energy" in a way they can't in real life.

    A key part of the remedy, she believes, is a "revalorization" of traditional male trades—the ones that allow women's studies professors to drive to work (roads), take the elevator to their office (construction), read in the library (electricity), and go to gender-neutral restrooms (plumbing).

    " Michelle Obama's going on: 'Everybody must have college.' Why? Why? What is the reason why everyone has to go to college? Especially when college is so utterly meaningless right now, it has no core curriculum" and "people end up saddled with huge debts," says Ms. Paglia. What's driving the push toward universal college is "social snobbery on the part of a lot of upper-middle-class families who want the sticker in the window."

    Ms. Paglia, who has been a professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia since 1984, sees her own students as examples. "I have woodworking students who, even while they're in class, are already earning money making furniture and so on," she says. "My career has been in art schools cause I don't get along with normal academics."

    To hear her tell it, getting along has never been Ms. Paglia's strong suit. As a child, she felt stifled by the expectations of girlhood in the 1950s. She fantasized about being a knight, not a princess. Discovering pioneering female figures as a teenager, most notably Amelia Earhart, transformed Ms. Paglia's understanding of what her future might hold.

    These iconoclastic women of the 1930s, like Earhart and Katharine Hepburn, remain her ideal feminist role models: independent, brave, enterprising, capable of competing with men without bashing them. But since at least the late 1960s, she says, fellow feminists in the academy stopped sharing her vision of "equal-opportunity feminism" that demands a level playing field without demanding special quotas or protections for women.

    She proudly recounts her battle, while a graduate student at Yale in the late 1960s and early '70s, with the New Haven Women's Liberation Rock Band over the Rolling Stones: Ms. Paglia loved "Under My Thumb," a song the others regarded as chauvinist. Then there was the time she "barely got through the dinner" with a group of women's studies professors at Bennington College, where she had her first teaching job, who insisted that there is no hormonal difference between men and women. "I left before dessert."

    In her view, these ideological excesses bear much of the blame for the current cultural decline. She calls out activists like Gloria Steinem, Naomi Wolf and Susan Faludi for pushing a version of feminism that says gender is nothing more than a social construct, and groups like the National Organization for Women for making abortion the singular women's issue.

    By denying the role of nature in women's lives, she argues, leading feminists created a "denatured, antiseptic" movement that "protected their bourgeois lifestyle" and falsely promised that women could "have it all." And by impugning women who chose to forgo careers to stay at home with children, feminists turned off many who might have happily joined their ranks.

    But Ms. Paglia's criticism shouldn't be mistaken for nostalgia for the socially prescribed roles for men and women before the 1960s. Quite the contrary. "I personally have disobeyed every single item of the gender code," says Ms. Paglia. But men, and especially women, need to be honest about the role biology plays and clear-eyed about the choices they are making.

    Sex education, she says, simply focuses on mechanics without conveying the real "facts of life," especially for girls: "I want every 14-year-old girl . . . to be told: You better start thinking what do you want in life. If you just want a career and no children you don't have much to worry about. If, however, you are thinking you'd like to have children some day you should start thinking about when do you want to have them. Early or late? To have them early means you are going to make a career sacrifice, but you're going to have more energy and less risks. Both the pros and the cons should be presented."

    For all of Ms. Paglia's barbs about the women's movement, it seems clear that feminism—at least of the equal-opportunity variety—has triumphed in its basic goals. There is surely a lack of women in the C-Suite and Congress, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a man who would admit that he believes women are less capable. To save feminism as a political movement from irrelevance, Ms. Paglia says, the women's movement should return to its roots. That means abandoning the "nanny state" mentality that led to politically correct speech codes and college disciplinary committees that have come to replace courts. The movement can win converts, she says, but it needs to become a big tent, one "open to stay-at-home moms" and "not just the career woman."

    More important, Ms. Paglia says, if the women's movement wants to be taken seriously again, it should tackle serious matters, like rape in India and honor killings in the Muslim world, that are "more of an outrage than some woman going on a date on the Brown University campus
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    « Reply #28 on: September 05, 2016, 10:42:21 AM »
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    « Reply #29 on: September 05, 2016, 11:19:32 AM »
    Was just able to read the article this morning, Sarge. She sounds like a very strong and tenacious woman and we'll need more like her and Mrs. Sommers if we are to combat the current toxic cultural zeitgeist and social justice zealot movement. I'm all for feminism as long as it is egalitarian, but what we see today is perverted. Mrs. Paglia is right, they need to go back to their roots in order to have wholesome, positive change.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    « Reply #30 on: September 08, 2016, 11:42:30 AM »


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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    « Reply #31 on: September 08, 2016, 12:53:30 PM »
    I hope he's right. I love his optimism...and his hair.

    I'd love to see it come to pass as he says but I'm afraid it's going to take a near ELE to fix it. It's too entrenched. It'll keep crawling back from the slime. And we will continue to kick it back in. However, I don't think we will ever see it wither and die unless an extreme, herd-thinning event occurs.
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    « Reply #32 on: September 08, 2016, 06:21:54 PM »
    That being stoic is seen as wrong is one of the biggest issues in modern society.

    A human should move with purpose. You should not move just from some stimulus.

    I also hate the damn phrase. "Now we should not say their feelings are invalid."

    If the feelings you have are not cogent. Then they are invalid by definition.
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    « Reply #33 on: September 08, 2016, 07:41:05 PM »
    That being stoic is seen as wrong is one of the biggest issues in modern society.

    A human should move with purpose. You should not move just from some stimulus.

    I also hate the damn phrase. "Now we should not say their feelings are invalid."

    If the feelings you have are not cogent. Then they are invalid by definition.

    Well said. Stoicism (and the attendant "keeping my big damn mouth shut") is an ongoing goal for me. It'll never go out of style or lose its importance.
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    « Reply #34 on: September 08, 2016, 07:54:58 PM »
    Well said. Stoicism (and the attendant "keeping my big damn mouth shut") is an ongoing goal for me. It'll never go out of style or lose its importance.

    'Keeping my mouth shut' gets harder as I age. I assumed it would get easier, but that seems to not be the case.
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    « Reply #35 on: September 08, 2016, 08:06:59 PM »
    My aspiration is to someday invade a " .  .  .  menadacious edifice .  .  .  " and kick the current inhabitants out on their worthless a**es.   :coffee
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    « Reply #36 on: September 08, 2016, 10:33:37 PM »
    Well said. Stoicism (and the attendant "keeping my big damn mouth shut") is an ongoing goal for me. It'll never go out of style or lose its importance.

    'Keeping my mouth shut' gets harder as I age. I assumed it would get easier, but that seems to not be the case.

    This is the hardest thing for me as well. Keeping one's mouth shut can be a wonderful asset. But then there are other things at play: society says to not have your own opinion, don't think for yourself; and I reject this notion. They say to never stand up to authority, and yet I have horrible anti-authoritarian tendencies. Lastly, while I may view the world in many shades of grey, my moral compass is black and white- the second someone starts doing mental gymnastics trying to excuse why certain groups of people are more qualified to tell others how to live, how it's ok for certain groups to infringe on the rights of others, hurt others, or take their belongings; then I become impassioned. When someone tells me that I shouldn't own a gun, or that gender studies professors are right and I should hate my gender or race for merely existing, then I have to say something. I struggle greatly with letting things like that slide. I am a man and a proud American and I love a good fight and while I hope to never have to physically put myself on the line, when it comes to battles of wit and clashes of ideology I have been told that I am quite well spoken. I greatly get off on publicly slapping down the arguments of others when they reach that dangerous threshold of infringing upon the rights of others.

    Besides, as coelacanth likes to say, we are nothing if not virtuous. And all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.

    I never want to get into the habit of saying or doing nothing.

    My aspiration is to someday invade a " .  .  .  menadacious edifice .  .  .  " and kick the current inhabitants out on their worthless a**es.   :coffee

    I'm sorry, coelacanth, but I'm going to need an explanation on who the target is of this statement? SJW's? Politicians? Stupid people in general?

    I hope he's right. I love his optimism...and his hair.

    I'd love to see it come to pass as he says but I'm afraid it's going to take a near ELE to fix it. It's too entrenched. It'll keep crawling back from the slime. And we will continue to kick it back in. However, I don't think we will ever see it wither and die unless an extreme, herd-thinning event occurs.

    I love his optimism too. I don't know if we can ever beat this thing, but we have some very well spoken individuals on our side. Milo is half expert troll and half skilled orator and he always looks positively fabulous while doing both  :P. The man speaks "freedom" and that is always attractive, no matter who is speaking it. Because he is a proud 'anti-feminist', some joke on the internet and say that "you know this world is falling apart and upside down when the only one with balls enough to stand up for men's rights is a gay man and when a Jew is the one doing the roasting of people (referring to the absolutely scathing comebacks by Ben Shapiro).

    Not really appropriate humour, but hey, I thought I would put that out there  :coffee.
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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #37 on: September 08, 2016, 11:47:58 PM »
    Oh I agree that you must speak up for what's right, no doubt there. I'm just cursed with a double dose of what granny called "Irish mouth" and it's nothing more than a lack of tact, a metric ton of uncalled for comments and ill temper. A strict stoic stance would prevent my foot-in-the-mouth moments. I'm getting better but I'm not there yet.

    I'm convinced that even more than rightly calling out PC and SJZ BS for what it is, simply living our lifestyles with obvious truck revving joy and open gusto is a huge slap down. What's more, I'm raising five loud, rascally kids just like me. Yeah sugar, we're still here and not going anywhere soon.

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    « Reply #38 on: September 08, 2016, 11:53:57 PM »
    Oh I agree that you must speak up for what's right, no doubt there. I'm just cursed with a double dose of what granny called "Irish mouth" and it's nothing more than a lack of tact, a metric ton of uncalled for comments and ill temper. A strict stoic stance would prevent my foot-in-the-mouth moments. I'm getting better but I'm not there yet.

    I'm convinced that even more than rightly calling out PC and SJZ BS for what it is, simply living our lifestyles with obvious truck revving joy and open gusto is a huge slap down. What's more, I'm raising five loud, rascally kids just like me. Yeah sugar, we're still here and not going anywhere soon.

    Long live the king, baby!

    "Irish Mouth"?  :hmm

    I wonder if I have some Irish ancestry in me that I don't know about?  ;)
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #39 on: September 09, 2016, 12:07:25 AM »
    " . . . mendacious edifice . . ."    @   2:43 of the video.   Just bein' a smart a**.  I know, I know . . . hard to believe coming from me but his eloquence inspired me.  What can I say?    :cool
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    " . . . mendacious edifice . . ."    @   2:43 of the video.   Just bein' a smart a**.  I know, I know . . . hard to believe coming from me but his eloquence inspired me.  What can I say?    :cool

    Ah, gotcha. I think I found a couple of new vocab words  :cool.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #41 on: September 09, 2016, 11:55:21 AM »


    Here is what happened after Hugh Mungus incident. She's crying about how when the cops were called, like she demanded, they made sure to question her, put their hands on their guns, and speak with her alone. By her reasoning, the police were interrogating her, intimidating a woman of colour, and wished to "speak" with her alone so that they could sexually assault her.

    The woman seems to not realise that questions or insults that make one uncomfortable is not the same thing as physical assault or rape  :bash.

    The only part I don't like about this video was he added a fan made video at the end that was supposed to be funny, but I find it to just be a lot of swearing. It begins at like 6 minutes or so.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #42 on: September 09, 2016, 09:36:49 PM »
    I thought this video was ok, but I was lead to it by an off shoot of bearing and thought he could use some promotion and that the thread could use some variety.

    I was searching for a video by bearing or undoomed on "Toxic masculinity" and couldn't find any examples, really.



    One of the things that really irks me and I've heard it been used quite a few times on campus (of course it is only used by campus professors to talk down to students).
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #43 on: September 09, 2016, 10:57:36 PM »
    The only thing truly "toxic" is stupidity and it is non-specific.  It occurs at random throughout human populations wherever they are found.  I will concede that there are certain hot spots where you are more likely to encounter it but fortunately that seems to be a self correcting problem. 

    Anywhere the number of stupid people outnumber those that are not so afflicted, some sort of disaster usually occurs rather quickly and restores a sustainable balance. 
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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #44 on: September 11, 2016, 01:33:59 AM »




    That second video, my goodness  ::).
    « Last Edit: September 11, 2016, 01:56:46 AM by MTK20 »
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #45 on: September 11, 2016, 04:19:32 AM »
    While not poking fun at any specific SJW, this still relates to the thread because it is an argument on how our current society is in favour of true equality- despite the bemoans of SJW's and the temperament of the current zeitgeist.

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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #46 on: September 11, 2016, 11:11:15 AM »
    Ok! Getting the thread back on track in a big way, today!

    Here's a buzzfeed article. Read the comments and then enjoy your eye bleach.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means?utm_term=.kpeV6nOJo#.wpN4zvOpx







    This is the spot where my video of Milo destroying white privilege should be, but I couldn't find it  :(.

    Here is your extra dose of insanity today:





    I've come to a conclusion, through repeated study of the subject matter. Even if you take the most inflammatory anti social justice zealot like undoomed or Milo, their argument is:

    "fluff you, you're opinion is wrong and stupid and here is why."

    While even the best spoken social justice zealot only has half of that argument. They say:

    "fluff you, your opinion is stupid and wrong."

    They never back up the argument, merely slander and lambast the person they're arguing with. Sure they use a complicated vocabulary: internalised, systemic, cis-gender, heteronormative, rape culture, etc. But with a little education, it's easy to see that this is merely sophistry. They speak many paragraphs that sound good, yet with minor scrutiny the argument can be distilled to little more than ignorant opinion, venomous hatred, and a habitual ignoring of providing the burden of proof needed in order to demonstrate their claims and take them seriously.

    It's as fascinating to me as it is horrifying, and that is why it must be dissected and documented. Despite the disgusting material, I've noticed that I've become quite academic about it. What is this? Why do people do this? How can we rectify it?

    More to come in the future.
    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #47 on: September 11, 2016, 10:15:48 PM »
    You have adopted the doctrine of reason over emotion, intelligence guided by experience and the pursuit of objective truth above all.  You have done this because you have proven, beyond any reasonable doubt that it is the only way people can relate to one another on a long term basis in a mutually beneficial manner.  You sir, stand accused of being a student of human nature.   :scrutiny   How do you plead?   :cool
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    « Reply #48 on: September 12, 2016, 11:01:51 AM »
    You have adopted the doctrine of reason over emotion, intelligence guided by experience and the pursuit of objective truth above all.  You have done this because you have proven, beyond any reasonable doubt that it is the only way people can relate to one another on a long term basis in a mutually beneficial manner.  You sir, stand accused of being a student of human nature.   :scrutiny   How do you plead?   :cool

    I sat down for 5 minutes trying to reply to this  :rotfl. I'm so awestruck by the stupidity of human behaviour that I really have nothing to say. I could plead cynical, frustrated, angry, or increasingly intolerant of bull s___, but.... I'm not sure. We have a debt that reaches into the trillions and terrorists who want us and western society as a whole dead, so what do we focus on? Skin colour and genitalia  :banghead. On how air conditioner is sexist and manspreading is a social atrocity.

    The things we trivialise and the things we insist on whinging about is just astounding.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    Re: The Worst of SJW's.
    « Reply #49 on: September 12, 2016, 11:13:23 AM »


    Texas
    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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