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Occupy DC Gets Raided (Pics)
« on: February 04, 2012, 08:58:30 AM »
There are two Occupy camps in DC, one at Freedom Plaza and one at McPherson Square (funny enough, the two groups don't get along very well).  The McPherson square camp is seen as the more professional of the two, and they are the more politically active of them.

As you might have seen on the news the last week or so the DC Police have talked about getting serious about enforcing the park rules regarding camping and sleeping.  Well, this morning the rubber hit the road and the police raided the camp.  The situation is on going right now, whether the park will be cleared out is yet to be seen.

I was there to watch. :whistle

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I live with a few buddies, and a mutual friend of ours who works for a Fed LE Agency gave us an unexpected text yesterday, "call me now".  My roommate did and he filled us in: the DC police was bringing in 200 police officers from New York, they planned on raiding the Occupy camp the next morning.  He was planning on going down to watch, and asked if we wanted to come.  Absolutely.

We headed into downtown DC early this morning.  Passing the White House area we say a large number of vehicles, police, and horses being staged out of there.  We found a place to park, noticing that there was a conspicuously large number of police cars parked on side streets.  Walking up to the square we kept on the opposite side of the street, wanting to see the action but not get caught in anything.  A guy came across the street to talk to us, he didn't seem to be an occupier but rather was the usual street type.  He asked us if we were staying for the raid, saying that police had been seen gathering in a few other areas, and people were expecting something to happen.

From the park a number of people started shouting "wake up", realizing perhaps that the raid was imminent.  From the distance the sound of a helicopter came, echoing down the near empty city streets, getting closer.  Suddenly from the direction of the White House staging area a large number of police lights came on.  Roaring down the road six motorcycle cops raced to the square, three peeling off to head to a far corner and three headed to the other end.  As the passed shouts from the park erupted, calls of "their coming", "wake up", and "stand your ground."

Following the motorcycles came a huge motorcade of vehicles.  Cop cars, trucks, and a dozen white panel vans.  From the other end of the park, more lights and vehicles appeared, sealing the streets from traffic.  The vans opened up and out came the riot police, putting on their helmets and adjusting their shields while several dozen mounted officers appeared from down the road.  Flanked by the riot police, the mounted officers entered the park, securing the sidewalks and central area. 

As this was going on a bunch of homeless people made a break from the park.  I suspect they were there for the food and shelter, not the politics.  Once things got real, they weren't sticking around.  The police were (somewhat) keeping more people from entering the park, but anyone trying to leave was allowed to walk away without trouble.  About this time a motorcycle cop who was at the corner told us to put away our cameras.  We did, then just walked about forty yards down the sidewalk parallel to the park and kept doing it from there.  No one said anything more about it.

A few occupiers were shouting at us and other people watching, and from the camp there were a few "people's mic" things going on.  In the middle of the park is a statue atop a large pedestal, around which a large tent had been constructed.  Three or four protestors climbed atop it, refusing to come down, while the helicopters continued to circle the square with lights shining.  A number of city sanitation workers showed up, setting up metal crowd control barricades around the park and down the sidewalks inside it, effectively sectioning off the various tent areas from each other. 

We walked around the park some as the news began to show up.  All in all, it was pretty peaceful. The police were definitely loaded for bear and ready for things to go down badly, but it seemed to be pretty calm.  There seemed to be substantially more police than occupiers, and the sudden presence combining with overwhelming force probably helped suppress anything crazy from kicking off.  Police presence was in the hundreds, my guess at least two or three (it was hard to tell in the dark).  I saw at least three dozen marked police cars manning a two block radius traffic break, and that's not counting the dozens of vans, police trucks, etc.  Saw a few Feds as well, there was at least one hummer there and a truck with some BAFTE guys in tac gear.

As the sun started coming up things seemed to have settled into a muted acceptance of the inevitable.  Tents were slowly coming down, and the people on the statue seemed to be holding out (as cherry pickers were being brought in) to try and secure concessions from the police regarding the searching of tents and such.  We decided to take off, the action seemed like it was done.

Very interesting to watch!  A few pictures (sorry, night time on a cell phone):


The first wave of the vans.  Behind them was more, as well as a couple police buses.


Sanitation workers erecting barricades.


A few of the perimeter police.  Groups of four or five cops were patrolling on foot around the park while the larger group was inside.


The North East corner of the park.  The main roadblocks were a block away but they set up a secondary line immediately surrounding the park.


Hard to see, but there are people on the stature, foot and horse cops on the ground.


Sun rises over the Capitol building.

« Last Edit: February 04, 2012, 09:10:05 AM by Feud »


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Re: Occupy DC Gets Raided (Pics)
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 01:45:35 PM »
I was expecting at least one clubbed Occupier, oh well, at least DC had enough of them.

Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 02:48:48 PM »
According to this http://wtop.com/?nid=109&sid=2734685, the DC police are not throwing them out but enforcing the "no camping" rule. On a related note, I wonder if the State would have been so tolerant if the occupiers were tax payers instead of tax eaters.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 06:04:36 AM »
The occupiers are lucky General MacArthur wasn't in charge of that raid.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 12:02:09 PM »
I've been wondering about that parallel myself the last few days. 

Economic outlook between the two time periods?  Similar.

The first half of the 1930s saw the Bonus army, 2008-2012 sees first the tea party, and then occupy movement.

And as of a few days ago, President Obama says he plans to resurrect much of FDR's New Deal, both in principle and practice.  Such actions and policies have been strongly (but arguably) shown to have lengthened the effects of the 1929-1938 depression.   

Interesting times indeed.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 12:54:26 PM »
Reminds me of that time in history when WWI vets were living in some thrown up shanty town near DC way back when.

Edit: Found it here...

http://collectingmythoughts.blogspot.com/2010/03/fdr-abolished-benefits-for-american.html



(In March 1933, President Roosevelt persuaded Congress to pass the "Economy Act." A response to the Great Depression, the measure included a repeal of all previous laws granting benefits for veterans of the Spanish-American War and all subsequent conflicts and periods of peacetime service.

It also gave the President authority to issue new veterans benefits. Roosevelt then promulgated regulations that radically reduced veterans benefits. When the President's authority to establish benefits by executive order expired in 1935, Congress reenacted most of the laws that had been in effect earlier.")

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 01:45:28 PM »
The assault on the WWI vets was where Dugout Dug MacArthur led US troops against US veterans.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 01:48:19 PM »
The occupiers are lucky General MacArthur wasn't in charge of that raid.
The use of the military to disperse the Bonus Army turned out to be a major faux pas and provided propaganda for the Democrats in the 1932 presidential campaign.  Obama may be many things but among them is that he is a Chicago politician.  I doubt he is stupid enough to follow Hoover's example and hand his opponents such an easily exploitable issue during an election year.

See also the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 06:08:37 PM »
See also the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago.
Didn't Dan Blather...er...Rather get sucker punched?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 09:50:19 PM »
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Obama may be many things but among them is that he is a Chicago politician.  I doubt he is stupid enough to follow Hoover's example and hand his opponents such an easily exploitable issue during an election year.


TOO LATE-  He already did hand them a doozy.  He's been busy playing "Good Christian" in the media, while his machinery has been telling Catholics everywhere - http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/bishop-obama-telling-catholics-to-hell-with-you/

Feud-  Any idea what that occupy camp was using as a focal point?
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 10:01:54 PM »
Politically, my understanding is that it is considered the "professional" camp. They were the ones who are the long term, hard left, whereas the other camp is more younger, generally disenfranchised but not as confrontational.

In the practical sense, the focal point was the "tent of dreams", which was a giant tarp tent they errected around the statue of mcphearson. That got taken down pretty quick by the police, and I saw a bunch of occupiers spreading it out on the empty road. They now want it in the smithsonian, of all places.

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 11:32:42 AM »
TOO LATE-  He already did hand them a doozy.  He's been busy playing "Good Christian" in the media, while his machinery has been telling Catholics everywhere - http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/bishop-obama-telling-catholics-to-hell-with-you/


Yeah there's some political savvy right there. Every other religious group needs to be watching this closely. If the .gov can force one religious group to do something against their tenets it can do to any other. The Catholic church isn't going to lay down on this one.
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 09:28:08 PM »
Remember that Catholic Charities, the Society of St. Vincent DePaul, and the Catholic Health Association all supported Obama Care. This letter to members of Congress on letterhead of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops urges they pass Obama Care and calls health care "a basic human right".

http://old.usccb.org/healthcare/HC-Letter-to-Congress-012610.pdf

The current objections sounds more like sour grapes than any principled opposition.  They were perfectly happy to have the government force me to support their hospitals but get all self-righteous when that government tells them how they have to spend some of the swag.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 10:34:09 PM »
Indeed.

A bit like the story of the little girl who brought the rattlesnake in to warm him up, eh?  She got bit as the snake got warm enough to move.  "You knew what I was when you picked me up."


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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 09:39:54 PM »
There is fantasy and reality.

Fantasy is a world that loves and shares and everyone gets along and there are no wars or hunger or need and  we are all one world.

Reality is a Marine planting a flag on a nameless island in the Pacific ocean after going through hell's own spawn so our families won't have to ever meet the enemy at home.

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 06:54:33 AM »
Indeed.

A bit like the story of the little girl who brought the rattlesnake in to warm him up, eh?  She got bit as the snake got warm enough to move.  "You knew what I was when you picked me up."

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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 01:05:27 AM »
More an more of these "camps" are being broken up.  It seems as though police are waiting for the last monkey from the press to get bored and leave before moving in.

In Philly they waited till they had scheduled construction before giving them the boot.  As far as I know they haven't pushed their luck buy occupying City Hall since.
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