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A news item that actually made me smile
« on: June 25, 2015, 03:23:55 am »
From today's Daily Telegraph (UK).
A pair of stupid teenagers forget that pensioners weren't always pensioners....

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An 88-year-old war veteran drew on his army training and saw off two armed robbers from his home with a single punch.

Kenneth Brown heard banging on his window as he watched the cricket on a Sunday afternoon and saw two teenagers.

He opened the door and the pair pushed their way in, demanded money and one pulled up his sleeve to reveal a knife with a six-inch blade.

But Mr Brown - who is just 5ft 4" tall and weighs nine stone - remembered his unarmed combat skills and thumped the armed thug in the chest.

The men fled his house empty handed and were later arrested.

Mr Brown, of Lympne, Kent, told police he could have done the pair "a lot more damage".

He said: "I didn't think about the danger.

"I told the police I could have done them a lot more damage, but I didn't want to get on the wrong side of the law."

He said: "I heard a banging on the double glazing of my door and there were two youngsters outside.

"They demanded money and one of them pulled back his sleeve and showed that he had a knife.

"I remembered my army training and let him have it.

"I punched him with my right hand on the chest. That pushed him backwards although he didn't fall over.

"Then they both went off. I had no time to be scared and that's how they train you in the army."

Mr Brown served with the Somerset Light Infantry in Asia in the final months of the Second World War.

He was conscripted in the spring of 1945, as the war in Europe was ending but the Allies were still fighting the Japanese in the Far East.

Tom Love and Jack Saunders, both 19, were sentenced to 11 and 19 months' youth custody respectively last Friday.

Mr Brown added: "That may teach them a lesson. Young people like these try it on with old people."

Sentencing the pair at Canterbury Crown Court, Judge Adele Williams praised Mr Brown.

She said: "Mr Brown behaved in a conspicuously brave and thoughtful way, reacting very quickly when confronted by these two men."

The court heard Mr Brown had taken off the chain and unlocked his front door to see what the boys wanted.

Prosecutor Sherry Nabijou said: "Saunders initially said 'I'm here to pick up my football from your front lounge', but he tried to push his way inside after saying, 'give me money’.

"Mr Brown was taken aback by this strange behaviour and saw the youngster had a knife with a five or six inch blade."

After Mr Brown punched Saunders, who had the knife, they ran into a waiting car but not before neighbours took down their registration number.

Love and a female were stopped in the car the next day and tests on cigarette butts in the car found Saunders' DNA.

Police also found text messages between the two men in which they referred to the victim as "the old boy".

Although the incident happened two years ago - on April 14, 2013 - Love, of Sittingbourne, Kent, did not plead guilty to attempted robbery until his trial began.

Traffic management engineer Saunders, of Wormshill, nr Sittingbourne, Kent, pleaded guilty at a earlier hearing.

Stephen Page, mitigating for Saunders, said he felt "the deepest remorse for what was a very harrowing and disturbing incident involving a very vulnerable person".

Simon Sandford, for Love, handed in a number of character references on behalf of the teenager.

But Judge Williams retorted: "What is particularly troubling is the conduct of this defendant on this occasion belies all the very good character references.

"There seem to be two sides to this young man."

She criticised the youngster for not pleading guilty until recently, adding: "His failure to acknowledge his responsibility until his first day of the trial has resulted in all this time elapsing.

"One could be forgiven for thinking that he did everything possible to avoid his responsibility."

Mr Brown is an engineer by trade and was a civilian employee for the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers for nearly 20 years.

There are a couple of things about this that do bother me though.

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"I told the police I could have done them a lot more damage, but I didn't want to get on the wrong side of the law."

Two thugs force their way into his home and threaten him with a weapon but he's still concerned that he'll be in trouble for protecting himself.

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Tom Love and Jack Saunders, both 19, were sentenced to 11 and 19 months' youth custody respectively last Friday

So after committing this violent act they'll both be back on the streets in under 2 years even without the almost inevitable early release.

Link to original story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11697647/WW2-veteran-used-army-training-to-fight-off-two-armed-robbers.html
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    Re: A news item that actually made me smile
    « Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 10:56:31 am »
    A pair of stupid teenagers forget that pensioners weren't always pensioners....
    Reminds me of the saying: 'It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.'

    If either of these pieces of trash were half the man of the old guy, they would have sucked up the punch and given back even worse.  Fortunately they were not.  The old man still has it.  :thumbup1



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    « Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 01:00:06 pm »
    I vote to rename this thread "British Badasses"  ;). I agree that the two got off easy, how easy would it have been for this headline to read "elderly man stabbed to death during home break in and robbery"? That the victim in question had to take such great pains to remain within the boundaries of what the UK considers 'justifiable self defense' when the victim is unarmed and confronted by multiple, stronger, and armed attackers is nothing short of egregious.
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    « Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 01:26:57 pm »
    That the victim in question had to take such great pains to remain within the boundaries of what the UK considers 'justifiable self defense' when the victim is unarmed and confronted by multiple, stronger, and armed attackers is nothing short of egregious.

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    This was my first thought.  A 88 year old should NOT have to worry about how bad he hurts a couple of 17 year old home invaders.
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    « Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 02:09:16 pm »
    To be honest, that one punch was all it took to 'stop the threat.'  Any more would have been unnecessary force.  (Though, I could see an 88 year old getting away with a few more hits before anyone said anything)  These thugs were looking for an easy score, and could not scrape together the balls to go two-on-one against an old guy who punches back.  They sicken me in more ways than one.



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    « Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 11:39:05 pm »
    Oh England, where art thou?

    I am a historian and I shudder to witness the insane 180 that England has taken in the last 30 years of degeneration compared to their past millennia of badassery. What happened to the nation that spawned the term "Iron men in Wooden Ships"?

    The mental disease of Liberalism, that's what.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 11:47:26 pm »
    Amen.  We seem to have our share of it on this side of the "pond" as well. 
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    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 02:06:00 am »
    Amen.  We seem to have our share of it on this side of the "pond" as well. 

    Yes, sadly enough but here in the Southern U.S. self defense is still legal for the most part.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 09, 2015, 04:42:14 pm »
    From today's Daily Telegraph (UK).
    A pair of stupid teenagers forget that pensioners weren't always pensioners....

    There are a couple of things about this that do bother me though.

    Two thugs force their way into his home and threaten him with a weapon but he's still concerned that he'll be in trouble for protecting himself.

    So after committing this violent act they'll both be back on the streets in under 2 years even without the almost inevitable early release.

    Link to original story:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11697647/WW2-veteran-used-army-training-to-fight-off-two-armed-robbers.html
    That bothers me too. It is so contrary to common sense.

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    Re: A news item that actually made me smile
    « Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 07:07:46 pm »
    This story reminds me of that movie Harry Brown.
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    « Reply #10 on: August 14, 2015, 07:36:58 am »
    This story reminds me of that movie Harry Brown.

    Thank you! I've been trying to remember the name of that movie. I saw the preview and then forgot about it
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