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« Reply #150 on: January 30, 2017, 07:00:10 PM »
Thank you!  It's not really expensive tastes, just finding the right tool for the job at hand, and pinching pennies until they squeal so you can afford them!

I understand that! I've got a taste for Smith & Wesson revolvers and I'm still in college, so I get saving the drinking money to afford nice things  :cool.
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Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #151 on: January 30, 2017, 09:04:33 PM »
    The Kimber was actually a lot cheaper than it looks.  I did the night sights and ambi myself, and found a gunsmith in Washington St. who was doing the snakeskin on the front strap and matching mainspring housing on the bobtail.  Had the slide duracoated to match the new finish on the aluminum frame, and put a set of slim-line grips on it.  Came in a couple hundred less than a Super Carry would have cost, and since I spread it out over a couple of years, it was almost painless.  Almost. 

    Plus, it shoots like a dream, will feed a two-pound pigeon if you can get it in the magazine, and almost disappears in an IWB holster.  The only problem is that I let the two older Minions shoot it.  Big mistake!  Now they want Ruger LW commander-length 1911s for graduation next year.
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    « Reply #152 on: January 30, 2017, 09:23:48 PM »
    The Kimber was actually a lot cheaper than it looks.  I did the night sights and ambi myself, and found a gunsmith in Washington St. who was doing the snakeskin on the front strap and matching mainspring housing on the bobtail.  Had the slide duracoated to match the new finish on the aluminum frame, and put a set of slim-line grips on it.  Came in a couple hundred less than a Super Carry would have cost, and since I spread it out over a couple of years, it was almost painless.  Almost. 

    Plus, it shoots like a dream, will feed a two-pound pigeon if you can get it in the magazine, and almost disappears in an IWB holster.  The only problem is that I let the two older Minions shoot it.  Big mistake!  Now they want Ruger LW commander-length 1911s for graduation next year.

    This peaks my interest in a subject that many mention. So many people say that: "1911's can't feed hollow points". Is there any truth to this or is it just internet tactical timmies who swear that Glock 9mm AIWB is the only way to go and anything less will "getcha kilt in da streets"?

    Also, the minions are graduating?  :o Like, graduating high school? From the way you speak of them, I thought they were still little ones. Preteen at the oldest.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #153 on: January 30, 2017, 09:54:27 PM »
    Some 1911s only feed hardball.  (Had a Gold Cup once that wouldn't reliably feed that.) Some, with a little tweaking, will feed some HPs.  Some will feed anything.   It's kinda the luck of the draw.  Most Springfield 1911s are good, most Kimbers are good, and most Dan Wessons are good.  That's  just my experience with them. YMMV, etc. Bear in mind that the weak link in an autoloader is the magazine, and there's some really crappy 1911 mags out there.
    Yeah, the two older ones will be graduating in June 2018.  The youngest one just turned 12 in June, so she's gonna be bugging me for a few years yet.  Not that I'm  complaining!  And the newest one is graduating this June, and starting college this fall.

    Damn, I feel old!
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    « Reply #154 on: January 30, 2017, 10:03:58 PM »
    Some 1911s only feed hardball.  (Had a Gold Cup once that wouldn't reliably feed that.) Some, with a little tweaking, will feed some HPs.  Some will feed anything.   It's kinda the luck of the draw.  Most Springfield 1911s are good, most Kimbers are good, and most Dan Wessons are good.  That's  just my experience with them. YMMV, etc. Bear in mind that the weak link in an autoloader is the magazine, and there's some really crappy 1911 mags out there.
    Yeah, the two older ones will be graduating in June 2018.  The youngest one just turned 12 in June, so she's gonna be bugging me for a few years yet.  Not that I'm  complaining!  And the newest one is graduating this June, and starting college this fall.

    Damn, I feel old!

     :hmm interesting. I wanted a Ruger commander or Springfield RO compact, but I wouldn't know what to do with a gun that couldn't feed my self defense ammo. It's definitely a deterring factor in picking one up  :-\.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #155 on: January 30, 2017, 10:07:49 PM »
    This peaks my interest in a subject that many mention. So many people say that: "1911's can't feed hollow points". Is there any truth to this or is it just internet tactical timmies who swear that Glock 9mm AIWB is the only way to go and anything less will "getcha kilt in da streets"?

    Also, the minions are graduating?  :o Like, graduating high school? From the way you speak of them, I thought they were still little ones. Preteen at the oldest.
    We have a couple S&W 1911's. They don't mind hollow points at all.
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    « Reply #156 on: January 30, 2017, 10:22:44 PM »
    This peaks my interest in a subject that many mention. So many people say that: "1911's can't feed hollow points". Is there any truth to this or is it just internet tactical timmies who swear that Glock 9mm AIWB is the only way to go and anything less will "getcha kilt in da streets"?

    Also, the minions are graduating?  :o Like, graduating high school? From the way you speak of them, I thought they were still little ones. Preteen at the oldest.

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    « Reply #157 on: January 30, 2017, 11:55:59 PM »
    Same here.  Mine is a Colt Combat Commander and it will usually feed its own fired cases out of the magazine so hollow points are no problem.

    It wasn't that good right out of the box but some judicious polishing and tweaking has paid dividends over the years.   
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    « Reply #158 on: January 31, 2017, 09:41:55 AM »
    Most modern 1911s will do pretty well out of the box.  Manufacturers have the benefit of 50+ years of gun-monkeys running amok to draw on, and it's really not that hard to make an out-of-the-box 1911 that will handle the vast majority of defensive loads.  And the ones that won't (where the problem is not directly traceable to a crappy magazine) usually only take minor tweaks to get them squared away. 

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    « Reply #159 on: January 31, 2017, 02:01:20 PM »
    my  rock feeds everything. even flying ashtray's.

    Sorry for my ignorance, but I keep seeing that term.  What, exactly, is meant by "flying ashtray"?
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    « Reply #160 on: January 31, 2017, 02:03:49 PM »
    Sorry for my ignorance, but I keep seeing that term.  What, exactly, is meant by "flying ashtray"?

    The big ol' hydroshok hollow points.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #161 on: January 31, 2017, 02:19:32 PM »
    Way back when, Speer made a 200 gr. JHP for law enforcement, that had a huge cavity.  Worked like a charm IF your gun would feed it.  Somebody said that it was big enough to use for an ashtray, and the name stuck.
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    « Reply #162 on: January 31, 2017, 02:36:27 PM »
    Yes. I've only heard the term used for Speer Gold dot and Federal Hydroshok rounds.

    I have some of the Federals sitting inside my Glock 30. Back when I used to carry it  :-[.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #163 on: January 31, 2017, 02:56:14 PM »
    My TRP and my Compact eat Gold Dots all day long.


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    A "flying ashtray"
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    « Reply #165 on: January 31, 2017, 06:45:47 PM »
    Yep!  Of course, the Speer was around in the mid -70s,  while the Hydro-Shocks didn't come along until much later.  Both caused some colorful language when guys tried running them in some of their "jam-proof" 1911s. >:D
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    A "flying ashtray"

    Fantastic Google-Fu  :cool.

    I've always thought the little rod in the middle was quite unique. Not sure exactly what it's purpose is other then expansion.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #167 on: January 31, 2017, 07:54:03 PM »
    It was supposed to force expansion at standard or slightly reduced velocities. Don't know if it did or not,  I never tried any.  I  know all the arguments against using handloads for defensive purposes. Got it

    Still running home-rolled defensive ammo, cause I  know it works.  YMMV, and free advice is worth about what you paid for it.
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    « Reply #168 on: February 01, 2017, 03:22:17 PM »
    My Colts have run just about every kind of Hollowpoint I throw in them. I usually run about 200 rounds through them before they join the rotation. I keep those plastic MTM cartridge cases and the leftovers in the box go into them. I had a couple of Springfields that hated XTP bullets but that was it. My carry ammo is HSTs or Gold Dots except for my sub-4" barreled pistols which get either Cor-Bon or Buffalo Bore 160 grain Barnes loads


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    « Reply #169 on: February 02, 2017, 10:05:04 PM »
    Last one, I promise!

    The revolver is the first Ruger Bisley .22 I ever saw, and it came into a gun shop in Council Bluffs, Iowa.  My friend Tom beat me to it, and for years, I tried to talk him out of it, but to no avail.  He wasn't letting it go.

    Eventually, I soured on Midwestern winters, and moved back to Alabama, where I belong. We stayed in touch, but work, families, and 1100 miles distance made it tough.  One day his wife called me, to tell me that he'd been diagnosed with liver cancer (from frequent and prolonged exposure to Agent Orange during his Southeast Asian Vacation) and he had, at most, a year left.  I made it up to see him a couple of times, but the cancer won, in the end. After his funeral, his wife told me that he'd left something for me, and asked me to drop by the house before I left town.  It was this Ruger, in the original box, with all the original paperwork and manual, and a handwritten note that said "Alright, you persistent SOB, you win!  You can have the damned old gun!"

    The knife is one that I bought for my dad, to tease him about killing the smallest 6-point buck I've ever seen. I told him that if he was going to kill little-bitty deer, he needed a little-bitty knife to dress them with. When he passed away, Mom gave it back to me, telling me that he'd never used it, but kept it oiled and showed it off to all his friends, being sure to tell them that it was made in Alabama.

    These are probably not leaving as long as I'm above ground.

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    « Reply #170 on: February 03, 2017, 11:36:10 AM »
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    « Reply #171 on: February 05, 2017, 08:37:18 PM »
    Last one, I promise!

    The revolver is the first Ruger Bisley .22 I ever saw, and it came into a gun shop in Council Bluffs, Iowa.  My friend Tom beat me to it, and for years, I tried to talk him out of it, but to no avail.  He wasn't letting it go.

    Eventually, I soured on Midwestern winters, and moved back to Alabama, where I belong. We stayed in touch, but work, families, and 1100 miles distance made it tough.  One day his wife called me, to tell me that he'd been diagnosed with liver cancer (from frequent and prolonged exposure to Agent Orange during his Southeast Asian Vacation) and he had, at most, a year left.  I made it up to see him a couple of times, but the cancer won, in the end. After his funeral, his wife told me that he'd left something for me, and asked me to drop by the house before I left town.  It was this Ruger, in the original box, with all the original paperwork and manual, and a handwritten note that said "Alright, you persistent SOB, you win!  You can have the damned old gun!"

    The knife is one that I bought for my dad, to tease him about killing the smallest 6-point buck I've ever seen. I told him that if he was going to kill little-bitty deer, he needed a little-bitty knife to dress them with. When he passed away, Mom gave it back to me, telling me that he'd never used it, but kept it oiled and showed it off to all his friends, being sure to tell them that it was made in Alabama.

    These are probably not leaving as long as I'm above ground.


    Great story and a gorgeous small game combo.   :thumbup1
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    « Reply #172 on: February 05, 2017, 08:54:43 PM »
    Thank you!  My grandkids all love to shoot that little .22, for some reason.  It's probably been fired more times in the last two years than Tom fired it the whole time he owned it.  I think the only reason he kept it was to keep me on the string about buying or trading for it.  Yeah, he was like that!  I still miss that contrarian SOB!
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