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CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« on: February 19, 2012, 02:17:36 AM »
CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher



So, today I bought a pair of RV85 flare launchers. I intend to set up a trust and DD at least one of the launchers. For the moment, it is strictly for use for smoke and flares only. I'd like to remind folks, do not mess around with NFA. Don't even come close. I don't even joke about violating NFA and have NO intentions of loading my own munitions until the paperwork is complete.

Ok, on with the review. 



First impression, at first glance, it looks like an over-sized fairly decent shotgun. It honestly looks like a single shot 4-bore, which is 26.72mm. It's fairly heavy, 3.85kg and balances very nicely. The stock is fairly identical to any other wood shotgun stock, and has one of those rubber cushion pads with the BRNO markings. The sling swivels are also fairly standard shotgun features.  That is where the similarities end.



The sight is a simple ring and post, over-sized compared to an AR15 and the post is shrouded. The sight has two modes, and clicks firmly into place. There is a notch sight marked "50" with white dots on either side of the notch, that angles the barrel up perhaps 10 degrees. The other setting is a bit more interesting. Two notches, also with white dots. The lower notch is roughly dead even, and the upper notch would cant the RV85 at perhaps 15 degrees. The double notch sight is slightly more than double the height of the single notch, but provides much quicker target acquisition.



The launcher crisply opens up like a single shot shotgun, by pushing the large lever 45 degrees to the right. The barrel is chrome lined and cleans very easily. Shells are fairly easy to load, but standard 26.5mm flare and smoke rounds will not chamber correctly. The RV85 was designed to fire wall-penetrating CS rockets, which have a staggered thicker rim to prevent it being loaded in standard 26.5mm launchers. Standard launchers would probably explode from the pressure. However, this can be corrected with a Danco #17 O-ring being fitted against the rim of a standard 26.5mm flare or smoke cartridge. These can be procured from your nearby Home Depot, approximately $2 for a 10 pack.
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 03:15:20 AM »
I like it.

I want to see some pics of smoke and flares.

I would love to see some flares fired at hippies in tents if you can...
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 03:18:12 AM »
Ah BRNO you make everything better, they are the Nutella of firearms.
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 09:09:01 AM »
Have been.
The company Ceska zbrojovka Brno (ZB) didn't survive economical transformation in 90tees and finaly bankrupted two or three years ago.

A small arms making company called PKP (http://www.zbrojovkaholice.cz/english) bought most of the stocks of spare parts and the ZBs prototype collection.
PKP makes some of former ZB rifles.

As for arms prodution in Brno city, there are two small companies that raised in 90tees Alfa proj. and Kora.
http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 12:58:46 PM »
I like it.

I want to see some pics of smoke and flares.

I would love to see some flares fired at hippies in tents if you can...

I'm ordering smoke, starburst and parachute flares on Friday.

Shooting at people, even with flares, would be a viotation of NFA unless the launcher had the DD tax stamp.  I won't be doing that.
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 01:05:06 PM »
Wait ... does this mean that shooting flares at hippies is perfectly cool if you have the stamp?!?!

HOLY ****, WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS BEFORE? ATF, HERE I COME!

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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 01:07:02 PM »
Yes yes yes, I'm joking. Don't shoot destructive devices at people. Even hippies.

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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 01:33:36 PM »
Have you/will you try a 12ga marine flare adapter?  I've been tempted to get one for quite some time...I just have a hard time justifying the purchase if it only uses the expensive flares.
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 01:49:25 PM »
Have you/will you try a 12ga marine flare adapter?  I've been tempted to get one for quite some time...I just have a hard time justifying the purchase if it only uses the expensive flares.

After DD, yes.  Until then, I am not even buying components for happy stuff.

I am designing some uh, MHI munitions.  Dude, smoothbore.  I can make a foot long wooden stake sabot round, and will.  Silver powder airburst.  Armor piercing silver powder delayed "airburst". Etc etc.  Obviously carefully designed to stay NFA compliant.

Pitt's dinky front loading launcher will be nothing.
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 02:28:07 PM »
OK... NOW I want one...
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 07:12:45 PM »
Can you run the chalk grenades without fouling the NFA issue? 
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 08:19:05 PM »
Can you run the chalk grenades without fouling the NFA issue? 

Yep.  Chalk rounds are kosher, so would paint rounds.  Anything that is signal or marking, and not offensive.  Using signal or marking rounds in an offensive manner, makes it a DD.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 09:47:44 PM »
Cool looking gun.  But I'd want Buckshot and Slugs. 
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 09:58:39 PM »
Cool looking gun.  But I'd want Buckshot and Slugs. 

Plan on doing that as well, AFTER DD.

On another forum, about half a dozen of us picked these up.  Put enough geeks, machinists and a no-kidding mad scientist on something, you'll have more information than you'd ever want. One of the geeks wants to make a near-4 bore load.

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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 10:38:07 PM »
Have been.
The company Ceska zbrojovka Brno (ZB) didn't survive economical transformation in 90tees and finaly bankrupted two or three years ago.

A small arms making company called PKP (http://www.zbrojovkaholice.cz/english) bought most of the stocks of spare parts and the ZBs prototype collection.
PKP makes some of former ZB rifles.

As for arms prodution in Brno city, there are two small companies that raised in 90tees Alfa proj. and Kora.
http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/
http://www.korabrno.cz/new/frame.html(pages in flash with terrible music, better turn off your speakers first)
   


This makes me sad.  Zbrojokva Brno has such great history.

At least we still have CZ-UB around.
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Re: CZ BRNO RV85 26.5 mm flare launcher
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 11:17:58 PM »
Plan on doing that as well, AFTER DD.

On another forum, about half a dozen of us picked these up.  Put enough geeks, machinists and a no-kidding mad scientist on something, you'll have more information than you'd ever want. One of the geeks wants to make a near-4 bore load.

How much pressure can that action take? Being straight walled and smoothbore will keep the stresses down, but it still looks relatively lightly constructed for that sort of thing.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2012, 11:29:01 PM »
How much pressure can that action take? Being straight walled and smoothbore will keep the stresses down, but it still looks relatively lightly constructed for that sort of thing.

It is massively over constructed for a grenade launcher.  For a 4 bore, no one is yet sure.  It is made with modern metals, unlike ye olde 4 bores.  But no one has done the necessary testing yet.

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2012, 11:35:32 PM »
If you don't mind me asking, what did these things set you back, and where on Earth did you find them?
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 11:42:03 PM »
$200 per.  Ordered them.

You can find them for $300+ now
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2012, 11:47:27 PM »
That's not bad at all. Are they considered firearms as-is? Do they require FFL transfers?
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2012, 11:52:19 PM »
That's not bad at all. Are they considered firearms as-is? Do they require FFL transfers?


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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2012, 11:55:17 PM »
I have absolutely no use for a flare launcher,  but those look pretty cool.   
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2012, 12:12:46 AM »
Me neither. But lack of a good reason has never stopped me before.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2012, 12:58:16 AM »
I have absolutely no use for a flare launcher

Then it's obvious you haven't given the issue enough thought.  You must expand your imagination young jedi.  ;)

Frankly, I'm not sure how I've managed to live this long without one of these.  It looks like a cool rifle and it shoots burning pyrotechnics.  Hell, I need two of them.
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2012, 01:05:21 AM »
Then it's obvious you haven't given the issue enough thought.  You must expand your imagination young jedi.  ;)

Frankly, I'm not sure how I've managed to live this long without one of these.  It looks like a cool rifle and it shoots burning pyrotechnics.  Hell, I need two of them.

I'm on the same page.

And luckily, it sounds like Rev and his buddies are doing all the mad science to make them REALLY fun (after the paperwork, that is)
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