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Urban Carry G2 Holster.
« on: December 08, 2016, 11:25:32 AM »
I've been thinking long and hard on how to carry a gun on college campus. While it is now legal in my state to do so, the culture is still very anti-gun. I want to go about my daily business and be protected, what I don't want is to have to evangelise people (via political debate) as to why I live the lifestyle I have chosen.

It appears that next to the time tested pocket carry and ankle carry, we now have a new option available to us. Perhaps one with which we can actually carry a firearm that is not just a gun by technicality, but one with which gives us the capacity, sight radius, and calibre that we could confidently stop a threat, whether it be in protection of ourselves or it be a worst case scenario of a mass shooter incident.

Enter the G2

https://urbancarryholsters.com/holsters-80/original-urban-carry/g2-urban-carry-holster.html



I'm very excited about this and I might end up getting one  :cool.
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    « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2016, 12:52:36 PM »
    Like anything it's got it's advantages and disadvantages. It's a mode of carry with limitations but it sort of reminds me of the Smart Carry style but with a mechanism to bring the gun above the belt line.

    So it will likely work for some guys, I'm not thrilled with a few things on it but overall seems like another option for guys.

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    « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2016, 01:22:25 PM »
    Like anything it's got it's advantages and disadvantages. It's a mode of carry with limitations but it sort of reminds me of the Smart Carry style but with a mechanism to bring the gun above the belt line.

    So it will likely work for some guys, I'm not thrilled with a few things on it but overall seems like another option for guys.

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    Please elucidate your point, Luke. I understand that certain styles may not be everyone's cup of tea, but you make holsters for a living, if anyone is qualified to honestly critique a holster- it'd be you  :cool.

    Btw, thank you for the shark bite! I received it a couple of days ago. I believe that I'm going to have to get jeans with a little larger pockets  :-[. The size of my j frame and the small form factor of the holster are fantastic, but I never realised that Wrangler boot cut jeans had such small pockets until now. I loved the boot cuts for ankle carry, but it seems I can't have both large pockets and loose ankles  :facepalm.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 08, 2016, 01:40:22 PM »
    Whatever you do, don't get Carhartt "Cell Phone pocket" pants.  Tiny d__n pocket openings.

    ETA: These, these right here. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CBEHWXQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I bought 'em because they were one of the few non-jean designs with a jean-style pocket, for my EDC pocketknife, and between the Brawler (which isn't a particularly bulky knife) and the pocket openings, I can barely get my hand in or my keys out.

    That said, they've been durable and comfortable.  But they're for people with tiny little women's hands...
    « Last Edit: December 08, 2016, 02:00:52 PM by booksmart »

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    « Reply #4 on: December 08, 2016, 01:46:52 PM »
    Whatever you do, don't get Carhartt "Cell Phone pocket" pants.  Tiny d__n pocket openings.

    Thank you for the advice :cool.

    I have an old pair of Guide Gear jeans that can fit my Glock 30 in them  :shocked. But they're pretty worn out and holey, definitely not serviceable or suitable for public. I may need to look into getting a new pair or something similar, hell, maybe I'll make a thread topic on that later  :hmm.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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    « Reply #5 on: December 08, 2016, 04:59:49 PM »
    I have a smart carry and use it quite a lot. I also have an Urban Carry gen 1 that I got last year for Christmas. I've never worn the Urban Carry out of the house. It seems like a great idea, but even with loose pants, the grip gets stuck on my belt and requires two hands to get the gun out. Another fun thing? If you pull the gun out too hard or too fast, your gun launches into the air, and could land on the concrete.

    Whichever side I put the holster on, I can't put anything in that pocket because it takes all the space. So I have to move everything from that pocket to another. Which causes another problem. That's the pocket I put my phone in, so putting my keys and knife in that pocket isn't a good idea.

    I like the Smart Carry a lot more. Some people may not. I doubt I'll carry with the Urban Carry ever again.


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    « Reply #6 on: December 08, 2016, 05:05:02 PM »
    Re-holster looks like it would be a nightmare.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 09, 2016, 02:03:45 PM »
    I don't want people coming across this to think I'm disparaging a competitor so to speak, so I'm not going to go through the things I don't care for in the design. That's actually a downside of what I do, since I would like to be able to speak a bit more openly about things, and if the guys who designed this rig read this understand I'm not cutting down the idea your going for that why above I mentioned it's a niche holster design. Heck in the same premise most holsters are a niche design to some degree but some more so than others. Cross draw as an example, not for most guys, doesn't work in allot of situations for concealment but it's an option to have.

    As mentioned above though the Smart Carry is a good niche holster that I see as a direct competitor to this design and I've been pretty happy with the one Sarah actually made for me oh maybe 6-7 years ago. There are times I'll throw a small gun in that for non-permissive environments or events and it's doable. It's not ideal and it's got some of the same drawbacks as this does, but a few others it doesn't or solves differently. I will say if it were my only means of carry though I'd be pretty unhappy since it's not nearly as comfortable for me, or allowing for larger guns etc as a normal carry rig. But in a place I couldn't carry like a non-permissive work I'd consider owning one for sure.

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    « Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 03:37:43 PM »
    the only thing I can think of is
    "Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
    "it's a gun, but it is good to see you."

    for the record, I'll stick to my reinforced texas. it matches my GI.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 03:47:07 PM »
    the only thing I can think of is
    "Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
    "it's a gun, but it is good to see you."

    for the record, I'll stick to my reinforced texas. it matches my GI.

    I love my Texas iwb, but it will not work in this environment  :-\ .
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #10 on: December 10, 2016, 03:59:45 PM »
    good point. environment dictates part of carry. I'm just lucky I'm able to easily conceal a full sized gun and have a love for looser clothes.
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    « Reply #11 on: December 10, 2016, 04:29:01 PM »
    good point. environment dictates part of carry. I'm just lucky I'm able to easily conceal a full sized gun and have a love for looser clothes.

    I'm ok on loose fitting clothes, it's just that having anti-gun colleagues that are huggers is the worst. So far I've only seen one video that discusses the "strategy and tactics" of remaining socially acceptable (i.e. accepting their hug) and yet still keeping from being had as someone who is legally armed.

    It was a cool video and if I find it I may make a thread on the "tactical hug"  :facepalm. While that video was a good concept and it does work, it still has many limitations.

    And that is the reason I am stuck with pocket carry, ankle, and something like the G2. Damn affectionate antigun people  :banghead. I can handle one or the other, but not both at the same time.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

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    « Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016, 02:41:58 PM »
    I'm ok on loose fitting clothes, it's just that having anti-gun colleagues that are huggers is the worst.

    Unless they're really hot.

    My opinion on this rig: it seems to work very well at one task (concealment), with the trade-off being nearly everything else. In fact it adds too many variables for Murphy to play with for my taste. Personally in a very no-no NPE I'd use a Raven Vanguard (actually I use the Suarez NPE, same thing) which is basically just a triggerguard on a string that stops you from blowing your bollocks off.
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    « Reply #13 on: December 11, 2016, 04:07:20 PM »
    I'm ok on loose fitting clothes, it's just that having anti-gun colleagues that are huggers is the worst. So far I've only seen one video that discusses the "strategy and tactics" of remaining socially acceptable (i.e. accepting their hug) and yet still keeping from being had as someone who is legally armed.

    It was a cool video and if I find it I may make a thread on the "tactical hug"  :facepalm. While that video was a good concept and it does work, it still has many limitations.

    And that is the reason I am stuck with pocket carry, ankle, and something like the G2. Damn affectionate antigun people  :banghead. I can handle one or the other, but not both at the same time.

    So far, I've always seen the hug coming, and have been able to get my right arm below their left, keeping the hug high and away from the right hip. 

    A stealth hug though, from behind, or the side, that one didn't see coming could be problematic.  Or worse, a normal, from the front hug you dealt with turning into a group hug.

    And even with pocket carry, you still have to turn slightly sideways to keep the hug from being full frontal.  Because then you get the previously mentioned question regarding a gun in the pocket vs happy to see them.
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    « Reply #14 on: December 11, 2016, 04:36:39 PM »
    So, an ankle holster is not completely without merit, then?   :hmm
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    « Reply #15 on: December 11, 2016, 05:24:09 PM »
    So far, I've always seen the hug coming, and have been able to get my right arm below their left, keeping the hug high and away from the right hip. 

    A stealth hug though, from behind, or the side, that one didn't see coming could be problematic.  Or worse, a normal, from the front hug you dealt with turning into a group hug.

    And even with pocket carry, you still have to turn slightly sideways to keep the hug from being full frontal.  Because then you get the previously mentioned question regarding a gun in the pocket vs happy to see them.
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    « Reply #16 on: December 11, 2016, 05:36:29 PM »
    So far, I've always seen the hug coming, and have been able to get my right arm below their left, keeping the hug high and away from the right hip. 

    A stealth hug though, from behind, or the side, that one didn't see coming could be problematic.  Or worse, a normal, from the front hug you dealt with turning into a group hug.

    And even with pocket carry, you still have to turn slightly sideways to keep the hug from being full frontal.  Because then you get the previously mentioned question regarding a gun in the pocket vs happy to see them.

    While I agree with you that you can typically see a hug coming, I must tell of my situation. I am in nursing school. I am one male out of five and my class group is around 75 or so. It is not the one hug or two hugs that worries me, it is the over saturation of multiple day in and day out. Statistically I am at quite the disadvantage, as the numbers will eventually catch up with me and I'm sure I'll be "had". While many of the girls are good Texans and even carry themselves, we also have many that are liberally bent or from other countries who find the idea of self preservation to be culturally vulgar. Even with the one's who I know are pro-gun, I still refuse to talk about guns with them. I like to keep my houses separate and personal life is personal and work life is work. Being responsibly armed is a lifestyle choice and for some reason it is one which holds political charge, so I refuse to discuss it. My rule is to be friendly and make small talk, but professionalism and being aloof are always key.

    In summary, your post is golden, thank you!  :thumbup2

    I didn't know the one about even a pocket holster being problematic  :hmm.

    BTW, I dug through my closet and found a pair of jeans that had the rights size of pockets for my new sharkbite holster  :cool.

    I have learnt two things from this adventure:

    1. As a Texan man who loves denim, I have as many pairs of blue jeans as most women have pairs of shoes  :facepalm.

    2. Not sure why boot cut jeans all seem to have shallow pockets, but I feel this adds to the stereotype that cowboys are poor and don't need deep pockets  :rotfl.

    So, an ankle holster is not completely without merit, then?   :hmm

    It certainly does have merit  :cool.

    Um, assuming that you don't have to lift your pant leg and be someones "patient" to give a demonstration on the health assessment of deep tendon reflexes or where to locate the posterior tibial pulse  :banghead.
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    « Reply #17 on: December 11, 2016, 10:29:52 PM »
    You need to work on the church hug. Awkwardly bladed at a 15-20° angle, with no chest or hip contact.
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    « Reply #18 on: December 11, 2016, 10:35:42 PM »
    You need to work on the church hug. Awkwardly bladed at a 15-20° angle, with no chest or hip contact.

    Yes. I need to refine my tactical church hug  :cool.

    Sounds like a good medium between full greeting and outright refusal. I've tried outright refusal before and it wasn't pretty. I think the label used was that I'm "detached".... Ouch  :( .
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    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #19 on: December 11, 2016, 10:59:38 PM »
    I've tried outright refusal before and it wasn't pretty. I think the label used was that I'm "detached".... Ouch  :( .
    If the 'herd' is inclined to hug, I would welcome the label of 'detached.'
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    « Reply #20 on: December 11, 2016, 11:46:03 PM »
    If the 'herd' is inclined to hug, I would welcome the label of 'detached.'
    depends on the person. I hug people I know and trust.
    others I give a firm handshake and keep at arms length.
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    « Reply #21 on: December 12, 2016, 02:00:08 PM »
    I saw this video before and I passed it off.  But now I'm taking a second look at it.  I'm wondering if it would fit a full size gun.  I'm also wondering how much looser my pants have to be?  Generally my pants are snug with my belt.  I don't know how much additional room I would have to put a full size gun down the front.  Even sucking my belly in, I don't see there being much room to put stuff.

    On the topic of hugs, I'm to the point that I don't worry about it.  I just make sure to look at their face when they discover "it".  Some know what it is, some just have a confused face.
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    « Reply #22 on: December 12, 2016, 08:10:53 PM »
    I saw this video before and I passed it off.  But now I'm taking a second look at it.  I'm wondering if it would fit a full size gun.  I'm also wondering how much looser my pants have to be?  Generally my pants are snug with my belt.  I don't know how much additional room I would have to put a full size gun down the front.  Even sucking my belly in, I don't see there being much room to put stuff.

    See, I'm curious about this too. What are the capabilities of this system? It's just that I'm not so curious as to buy one for myself and find out. My big box of leather is big enough as is.
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
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    « Reply #23 on: December 12, 2016, 09:07:00 PM »
    I saw this video before and I passed it off.  But now I'm taking a second look at it.  I'm wondering if it would fit a full size gun.  I'm also wondering how much looser my pants have to be?  Generally my pants are snug with my belt.  I don't know how much additional room I would have to put a full size gun down the front.  Even sucking my belly in, I don't see there being much room to put stuff.

    On the topic of hugs, I'm to the point that I don't worry about it.  I just make sure to look at their face when they discover "it".  Some know what it is, some just have a confused face.
    I used an XDS in my Urban Carry. With my pants a bit looser than normal, I still had issues getting the gun out. I usually had to use two hands to get it to work properly. If I pulled my belly in a fair amount, sometimes I could get the gun out one handed. I think your pants would have to be too loose for a full sized gun.

    The gun prints too. It doesn't look like normal stuff you have in your pocket. Plus, for me at least, I couldn't put anything in the pocket in front of the holster. It was annoying.
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    « Reply #24 on: December 12, 2016, 09:32:01 PM »
    I used an XDS in my Urban Carry. With my pants a bit looser than normal, I still had issues getting the gun out. I usually had to use two hands to get it to work properly. If I pulled my belly in a fair amount, sometimes I could get the gun out one handed. I think your pants would have to be too loose for a full sized gun.

    The gun prints too. It doesn't look like normal stuff you have in your pocket. Plus, for me at least, I couldn't put anything in the pocket in front of the holster. It was annoying.

    Aw, really!?!  :doh

    Thanks for the range report, mqondo!  :thumbup1
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    Do we forget that cops were primarily still using 6 Shot Revolvers well through the mid 80's? It wasn't until after 1986 that most departments then relented and went to autos.
    Capacity wasn't really an issue then... and honestly really it's not even an issue now.
    Ray Chapman, used to say that the 125-grain Magnum load’s almost magical stopping power was the only reason to load .357 instead of .38 Special +P ammunition into a fighting revolver chambered for the Magnum round. I agree. - Massad Ayoob

    Paradoxically it is those who strive for self-reliance, who remain vigilant and ready to help others.

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