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Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« on: May 12, 2010, 07:56:00 PM »
I've got a new Red Dot optical weapon sight on the way for some testing.  It's from an outfit called "Lucid".  If you have followed the link to Oleg Volk's Journal from my blog roll, you've most likely seen a picture of the Lucid HD7 Red Dot.  It's a good looking unit, rather ACOG'ish, if ACOG's wore rubber armor.  What I like about it, is the use of pretty dang common "AAA" type batteries, with 1000 hour run time and an automatic shut off.  That's pretty nice.  Built on rail mounting as well.  And it looks right for an easy Co-Witness.  I'm going to test this unit out and run it through my Carbine course June 5th.  See if it holds up or if it winks out or loses it's zero.  400 rounds of rapid fire rock and roll will shake up a weak optic. 
Anyone know anything more about it that just what's on their web page?
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 08:11:43 PM »
I checked out Oleg's pics and I must say it does look interesting.



Has four reticle options apparently (upper left corner)...



Looks like they're going for $229 at DPMS...

http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=5745&cat=1564

Interesting.  Looking forward to a range report.


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EDIT:  There's a discussion on ARFCOM where it has been mentioned that it's made in China. 

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1009931

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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 09:35:44 AM »
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automatic shut off.

How does it know when you're done?

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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 10:10:36 AM »
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 10:38:47 AM »
What if I want to shoot longer than two hours?

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 10:58:58 AM »
Um Ben I assume you know how to hit a key or a button...   :neener

George, remember to check to see if the "red dot" is visible from the front. 
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 11:04:52 AM »
I'm just sayin, it'd be pretty annoying to have your sight turn itself off while you're in the middle of something.

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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 12:34:42 PM »
Um Ben I assume you know how to hit a key or a button...   :neener

George, remember to check to see if the "red dot" is visible from the front. 
That's a concern of mine.  Also, it's coming out of the same factory that makes the Strikefire.  So I am not without reservations.  This is supposed to be a better unit.
I'm mounting this on my 930 SPX and rocking some SLUGS to see if it can hold up.
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 01:58:05 PM »
First impressions and examination.  It's a smaller unit than some photos seem to indicated.  It's about the same size as the other optics in this unit's class.  It's heavier, feels more "solid" than others as well.  At the 230 dollar price this unit is in the same class as the Bushnell Trophy, Vortex Strikefire, and the like.  Quality wise, this unit seems to be on par.  The unit, thanks to the more substantial build and mounting system does indeed seem to be the better choice for a combat optic.  The rubberized coating at least dresses it for the part.
Looking at the unit from the front, you can see the aiming point.  Small, and less visible than the others, but it is visible.  In the dark and looking at it, even from a distance, it's visible.  This isn't a huge problem, especially for a home defense or sporting application... but don't get this if you are going to deploy on a tour of duty.   Every other application, it would be just fine. 
The unit has a couple interesting things that set it apart from the competition.  Yes, it's a few bucks more, but look what you get.  1000 hours of run time.  Better than most optics in the class.  An auto shut off, which many don't... the Strikefire does.  The Bushnell doesn't.  Which means you could leave a unit on and come back to a dead optic.  That's not cool.  I like the auto shut off.  The built on mount.  I like that... the Bushnell has it too, but the Vortex doesn't.  Able to Co-Witness, yes, but the irons are a little higher in the field of view than I'd like, but just fine and totally workable.  The Auto Adjust Mode.  Nothing else in the class has this.  Set it to auto and it controls the brightness.  So you don't have to  keep playing with it.  That's a clear win right there.  And the use of common AAA batteries.  Another clear win.  AAA's are cheap and plenty, and if you want, shell out for those nice Lithium Platinums like I use... I suspect the battery life will be much better.
So, to sum this up on my first impressions, it looks like the Lucid is the optic of choice at this class grade.  Because of the exterior toughness, battery, and that auto adjust feature, it's winner. 
I'll be testing this on a couple different weapons.  One will be a 5.56 Carbine, and the other will be a shotgun loaded with slugs.
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 02:31:02 PM »
I'm very interested to see how thing hold up to hard recoil and general banging around.  I like my Trophy MP and have said I'd buy another on numerous occasions.  But if this one proves to be a winner I might have to pick one of these up instead.


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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 02:36:15 PM »
I'm very interested to see how thing hold up to hard recoil and general banging around.  I like my Trophy MP and have said I'd buy another on numerous occasions.  But if this one proves to be a winner I might have to pick one of these up instead.


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Just from impressions and not yet having shot it... It would be a step up... not a huge one... but a step up.  I don't think it would be worth replacing your current T-MP with it... unless it goes down.  But if you have other guns, it's looking like it. 
I'll be going out to shoot it soon.
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 02:46:30 PM »
But if you have other guns, it's looking like it. 

Yeah.  That's the plan pending to live testing.


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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 11:16:52 PM »

(Still Processing)
No Live Fire testing yet.  Had no time to day... dang it.
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 12:05:56 AM »
If it holds up on the shotgun, and to your scrutiny, this might be an option for my under-bed Mossy 500.

As far as optics are concerned, if the Ogre approves, that's good enough for me.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 10:41:35 PM »
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2010, 07:52:52 PM »
The Lucid HD7 Red Dot Optic.  I've pretty much completed my evaluation of this weapon sight.  Thumbs Up.  I'm trying to upload video to YouTube to show off my conclusion, but I'm having some technical difficulties.  (It's giving me a code 500 server error) In a nut shell, the HD7 is Strong, Clear, and Accurate.  It's held zero, it's handled recoil and has done everything that it should with no misbehaviors.  It trumps everything else out there in its class... and if you are wanting a new red dot optic and you can't afford that AimPoint or EoTech - this unit is a great choice.  I'll upload that video as soon as I can.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2010, 10:09:47 PM »
Still too tall for an M14. :(
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 12:57:51 AM »
I'm gonna have to see one up close, or buy one from somewhere I can return it. Just because it looks REALLY tall.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 01:02:31 AM »
It looks tall on the Shotgun, yes.  But on an AR... a flat top AR, it's just right.
The video I put together... almost uploaded now... shows it just fine.
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 01:34:05 AM »

Processing.
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2010, 04:36:47 PM »
That thing looks pretty interesting, but I've always been intrigued about using some of the Russian optics on a rifle.  Specifically the PK-01, PK-23, PK-A, and PK-AS.  Around $300 to $180 depending on your source, rugged as heck, midrange pricing, what's not to love?
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2010, 02:40:19 PM »
Ah, I forgot to mention... This optic rode my Rock River through the carbine course and I let everyone shoot it who wanted to.  It fired probably about another 200 rounds, putting it over the 1000 round mark.

Still shot point of aim, point of impact.  Still bright.  Still clear.  Still holds zero.  It's done everything I've asked of it, and has balked at nothing. 

The HD7 is a winning choice. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2010, 03:56:44 PM »
I would not be surprised if we start seeing decent quality optics coming from China.  We would be foolish to dismiss them out of hand as your test seems to show this optic has some promise.

Just like Japanese products were crap in 60's/70's but by the 80's/90's they were the leaders in quality products so too are Chinese products making that evolution.  Today Japanese optics are exceptional - Chinese optics are gaining. 

I might look at one of these as a back up optic.

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2010, 05:06:46 PM »
Yeeeaaahhh... but, China is, well, China.  I can think of a few guys that would dismiss Chinese optics on principle.

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Disclamer #1:  Bushnell products are made all over the place.  Japan, China, Philippines, and in the US.  The jury is out on exactly where the Trophy MP is made.  Reports vary among all listed countries.  But I do agree that you can't dismiss China out of hand where quality is concerned.  If the QC stateside is up to snuff, as it should be, then it's a non-issue.

Disclaimer #2:  I own a Trophy MP, and I do like it.  However, I wouldn't go as far saying I'm "rabid fanboy" about it.  I'm simply doing the math here.  Equal quality - $80 = better value.  *shrug*
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Re: Lucid HD7 Red Dot
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2010, 06:58:15 PM »
80 Bucks?  They go for 199.  You must have found yours on a fire sale.
I had a T-MP and it was a great optic.  This one with a more common battery type (IE - You can get it while in line at the GroceryStore or 7-11) greater battery life, auto-shut-off, and auto-brightness... The HD7 has features that put it a rung above.
An the T-MP is absolutely made in China.
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