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A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« on: January 14, 2010, 08:44:39 PM »
I'm re-writing the novel that I've been working on for the last two years or so (got too emotionally attached to the characters and wrote myself into a corner as a result). I'm basically gutting it and starting over; new characters, new setting, and only keeping the same basic plotline. In this new version, the protagonist's preferred handgun is a customized Browning Hi-Power. I've got a few questions pertaining to said pistol.

What IDPA class would a Hi-Power be allowed to compete in? Would it even be a viable option to compete with?

The IDPA rule book bans pistols that have had any safety devices removed or disabled. Would this include a Hi-Power that had its magazine safety modified to allow the magazine to drop free?

Are Crimson Trace Lasergrips permitted in IDPA competition?

Also (sort of unrelated) is the Novak Custom Shop any good? They were the only ones I've found who offer that modified mag safety option (didn't find it on C&S).

Thanks in Advance.

EDIT: Whoops! Just realized I should've put this on the Competition board. Sorry! Mods, how can I move it there?
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 09:32:14 PM »
EDIT: Whoops! Just realized I should've put this on the Competition board. Sorry! Mods, how can I move it there?

I don't think you can. But I can. So I did.

Unfortunately, I can't answer any of your other questions.
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 10:23:42 PM »
Going by memory, a Hi Power being single action and less than 45 cal would put it in Enhanced Service Pistol (ESP).  I've seen people using Hi Powers in club IDPA matches so you can do it.  Off the top of my head I don't recall rules about things like your mag release, or lack thereof.  At club level matches I doubt it would matter, so long as the gun is still safe to operate. In a major (state level or above) match they get more strict about all of the rules in the book though, so I'd read it more carefully or talk to the match director to be sure.
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 12:27:24 PM »
I know nothing of the IDPA rulebook, but you could juast have your guy using the newer "mouse trap" BHP mags that have this little mouse trap like spring at the bottom rear of the mag that rotates againt the base of the pistol and forcefully ejects the mag when the catch is pressed.
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 06:08:53 PM »
Unless the rules have recently been changed, and I'm not mistaken,
IDPA doesn't allow any sights except regular open ones.
Not even ghost ring sights.
But, like xsquidgator says, best to download the latest rules.
Your character will be in good company, carrying a HP.
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 09:55:39 AM »
Thanks guys.

I actually read over the IDPA rule book, but still wasn't sure about those points since they weren't specific on the questions I had (I can be a bit too literal at times). Looks like my character can still roll with most of the modifications I had planned.

From how I'm understanding the rules (having finally looked in the glossary), it looks like the laser sights are a no-no. Could he still put Lasergrips on the gun, but keep them switched off during competition? You can disable those, right? And does anyone know anything regarding the Novak Custom Shop?
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 01:38:35 PM »
And does anyone know anything regarding the Novak Custom Shop?

I just had a sight package put on.  Quick service, good work, refinished the whole slide.  I am seriously considering another sight job with a new barrel bushing on a Springfield 1911.

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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 08:07:02 PM »
I shoot a HP in IDPA and have the magazine safety removed, I think the case could be made that it is "safer" without it as it requires a new empty magazine to be inserted just to drop the hammer. The weapon still has a "safety" that is better than the class usual Glock (insert your model #). Other than that it is much more accuarte than the plastic guns that are used by the "masses". Shoot Safe, Shoot Often.

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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2011, 11:33:52 PM »
Well, since this one's been resurrected, I'll throw some knowledge.

I don't shoot IDPA, but I shoot IPSC/USPSA. In that case, a HiPower would either fall into Limited Division, Minor Power Factor since it only shoots 9mm. You could also load it to only 10rds and shoot in Production Division. In either case, magazine safeties may be disabled.

Crimson Trace Lasers would put the gun in Open Division, if they're legal. Open allows red-dot sights, but I don't shoot or have any intention of shooting Open, so I'm not really familiar with the rules there.

As for being feasible to shoot, absolutely. I've shot a Beretta 92FS in Limited/Minor, just like a HiPower would. It puts you at a slight disadvantage in points against other Limited shooters who are shooting Major Power Factor. Minor scores fewer points per hit than Major, but if you make all A-zone hits, they score the same. 9mm forces you to shoot better and get your hits.
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2011, 11:43:51 PM »
For some of the best gunsmithing you'll ever see, call OttoComp, in St.Louis:

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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2011, 11:47:30 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 11:58:26 PM »
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Re: A Hi-Power in IDPA? and other questions
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 12:21:00 AM »
Thanks for the renewed input, guys, but I don't actually own a Hi-Power: it was for a character in a book that I started to write (said book died/kinda got worked into Dead Reckoning.) I will keep this stuff in mind though, since a Hi-Power is on my "To Buy" list.
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