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1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
« on: November 07, 2012, 11:14:59 PM »
Just picked it up this evening...

I had a G34 I got for shooting steel plates that became a safe queen after a while, put it up on gunlistings saying I wanted to sell it or possibly trade for a M1 Carbine. I was actually thinking about pulling the add after very limited responses and this guy gets a hold of me saying he has a Winchester that he will trade, but it has Blue Sky, Arlington VA on the barrel. I look it up and it was part of a Korean re-import back in the 90's. Serial number shows it was made between Feb and Nov or '44...maybe a D-Day build up gun, I dunno...anyway...deal! Carbine is in good shape although the bolt drags a bit, just did a 30 second field strip and the grease is old and dried up...going to have to clean and Slipstream it (grease)...that should do it! Also maybe rub some linseed oil into the top hand guard to see if it will darken up a bit...and of course shoot it!
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 11:23:21 PM »
    Very nice man.  Seems everyone has had a run on these of late. 
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 11:34:36 PM »
    Nice.  I'd love to get an un-fluffed M1 carbine one of these days but they are hard to find at a reasonable price around here.
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 09:20:17 AM »
    That's why I jumped on this one...I live about 2 hours South of the Camp Perry CMP store up on the lake and last time I was there this summer to buy .30-06 surplus I asked the guy if they ever saw themselves getting any more carbines and he said unless somebody opens a door on a long forgotten vault one day that the chances were none and none.... I have a friend that runs the website ebayonet that is going to make me a deal on an original M4 bayonet for it....now hopefully I can find ammo.  I have had a Universal in the safe as a "place holder" for over a year now and plan on keeping it too....I got lucky and got one of those that works other than the rear sight slides rather easily so I had to put a few drops of locktite on it to freeze it at the 200 meter mark. 
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 09:47:18 AM »
    I *think* that's what I need to find for my stepfather... he traded his M16 for a ".30 caliber carbine" during his tour in Viet Nam and tried to ship it back, but someone filched it.

    Is that the right critter?

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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 10:16:52 AM »
    Congrats!  I love mine.  Those are fun little shooters.

    Enjoy!
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 01:08:24 PM »
    Congrats!  M1s are good fun.
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    « Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 10:41:46 AM »
    @ Booksmart...yep, probably is.  We gave a lot of these to the South Koreans Vietnamese as the smaller carbine fit the smaller Vietnamese better than the full sized M1 Garand that we would of normally given to a foreign ally at that time.
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 10:46:26 AM »
    What're reasonable prices on those?

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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 11:44:51 AM »
    What happened to that last batch of one million that was supposed to be imported back from Korea?
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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 12:24:35 PM »
    That is freaking cool. 
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    « Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 01:00:15 PM »
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    What're reasonable prices on those?

    Depends on manufacturer. Oh, and condition, of course. An as original WW2 issued M1 carbine (flip up sight, no bayonet lug) will bring a premium. At the large consignment auction I go to, I would be surprised to see a GI carbine go for less than $600. 

    I purchased my Inland service grade from the CMP for $650, form the last batch they had. This was a couple of years ago. Unless the Korean ones come back, I would not expect prices to go down.

    Be aware there exists several manufaturers that are post war, non-GI. Auto Ordnance is the current one. In the past, these have included Universal and Plainfield. Prices for these will be less than for GI.

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    What happened to that last batch of one million that was supposed to be imported back from Korea?

    Last I heard, they were letting in the Garands, but not the Carbines. Given the events of November 6, I doubt this will change.

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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 01:50:34 PM »
    Depends on manufacturer. Oh, and condition, of course. An as original WW2 issued M1 carbine (flip up sight, no bayonet lug) will bring a premium. At the large consignment auction I go to, I would be surprised to see a GI carbine go for less than $600. 

    I purchased my Inland service grade from the CMP for $650, form the last batch they had. This was a couple of years ago. Unless the Korean ones come back, I would not expect prices to go down.

    Be aware there exists several manufaturers that are post war, non-GI. Auto Ordnance is the current one. In the past, these have included Universal and Plainfield. Prices for these will be less than for GI.

    Last I heard, they were letting in the Garands, but not the Carbines. Given the events of November 6, I doubt this will change.

    Rob

    Correct on both accounts.... when it rains it pours...just saw a IAI listed for $500 an hour away from me.  It is pretty much hit or miss, best bet is to look at local sources like online sites (gunlistings or armslist) or gun shows.  Gun auction sites seem to be 200-300 higher on these.   As a lot of the folks hanging onto these that bought them years ago when they were dirt cheap get older you may find one here or there released back on the private market - thats how I got mine. The Korean carbines were denied permission to be imported because of the detachable 15 round mags, or so I am told.

    Just a little info I did on the difference between my Universal M1 and a friend's wife's Inland...

    http://hueysgunsight.blogspot.com/2012/07/aint-nothin-like-real-thing-baby.html

    I have always loved the M1 Carbine...Larry Vickers did a cool little vid about it being the original "PDW"

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    Re: 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine
    « Reply #13 on: June 14, 2013, 02:10:52 PM »
    Reviving this old thread about the wonderful little M-1 Carbines of WWII vintage.  I found a good deal yesterday on .30 Carbine ammo and thought I'd share the info. 

    Yesterday I happened upon a good local stock at Academy Sports store here.  Every place has been out of stock for months here.  This is 50 count "Monarch" 110 FMJ for $21.99 a box, limit of 3.  That's a good price.  It's rebranded Privi Partizan, brass cases, non-crimped non-corrosive primers.  Shoots clean and with reasonable accuracy for plinking and having fun.   My 85 year old dad has a carbine and we'll do some shooting with it on Fathers' Day.

    I picked up the gun, a 1943 Inland, for my dad about 15 years ago or so for a reasonable price at a local gun show.  As a WWII vet,  he went ashore in the initial invasion of Okinawa, serving in the Sea Bees as an equipment operator.  They cleared jungle for roads, rebuilt the airstrip and such.   That was not forward action, but they were constantly being harassed by snipers and night time attacks on their perimeter.   During the day he was operating bulldozer controls with an M-1 carbine in his lap and the dozer blade as a shield when needed!  You should have seen the big smile on his face when I gave it to him.   He lived with his service rifle and was always telling me he wished he could have brought it home with him.

    If you have a Carbine, either vintage or new, and want some practice ammo, this is pretty good quality stuff at a reasonable price, for something that has been hard to find lately.   

    And take your dad shooting this weekend, especially if he is a vet!
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