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My SBR wait
« on: August 03, 2011, 12:22:54 PM »
Oh my gosh, guys!

How long did any of the SBR owners here wait for the ATF forms to come back?  I'm just curious, seems like mine are taking quite a long time.


I've already got it built, but I can't take it shooting for fear of repercussions.


It's already been five-ish months.


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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 12:46:20 PM »
You can call the ATF and get a status.  I don't know the number though.


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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 01:21:39 PM »
Did you do a Trust or go the individual route?  Are you sure that you have a fully assembled/ready to fire SBR in your posession without the approved form?  That would be illegal FYI.
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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 07:26:08 PM »
Mine took 72 days, via Trust.

And Matt's right. You surely mean you have some separate parts laying around that would require tools to assemble into an operable firearm, and that they won't be assembled until the stamp arrives, right?

ETA: the number to check on the status is 304-616-4500. Have the serial number of your receiver ready when you call. And remember, every time you call, you're taking time from an examiner who could be working on your paperwork, so don't call once a week to check in.
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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 09:26:52 PM »
Actually that is incorrect.  The people that answer the phones are customer service personnel...I asked that question on my last form to the person on the other end of the phone.  They said that if an examiner answered the phone then the work would never get done as appearantly the phones are constantly ringing.  All the CS weenie does is enter the information (serial number & name of person on the paperwork) into their computer.  Nothing goes into their database until an examiner starts on a packet and then enters the information and the status of the packet.  If there is something there then the CS weenie just relays what they see on their screen (nothing/not in the system, processing or approved/denied/sent back).  You can call 50 times a day (though I wouldn't recommend it...) without having to worry about bothering an examiner.  The only time that you will get to talk to an examiner is if your packet gets kicked back to you and you have a question about what you need to do for corrections as it has the examiner's number & extention...figure out how I know that one.

As for times, my first transfer, a suppressor (Form 4), took 40 days to kickback, then 3 days for approval, my first SBR (Form 1) took 45 days, my 2nd suppressor (Form 4) took 40 days and my 2nd SBR (Form 1) took 60ish days and they all are on a RLT.

And remember, every time you call, you're taking time from an examiner who could be working on your paperwork, so don't call once a week to check in.


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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 11:31:44 PM »
That's interesting. Every time I call, and a friend has the same number of stamps and same experience, they act like I'm taking their valuable time away from important work. We even theorized that my friend's Form 1 was getting kicked to the bottom of the pile every time he called.
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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 09:44:18 AM »
To Mattitude and Outbreak....no, yall are right, I have parts laying around.  Seriously.  They are not assembled together into a functional, firing weapon. I have the lower in the kitchen pantry, and the upper on my bookshelf next to Larry Correia's finest works.  I'm far too scared to fully assemble it until it is fully legal.


I went the Trust route.  Does that make a difference?


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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 03:08:28 PM »
I went the Trust route.  Does that make a difference?

If your paperwork is now in ATF's hands, not really.


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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 08:06:25 PM »
What you were probably interrupting was their solitare game.  I assure you that they are nothing more than phone jockeys as I asked them point-blank if they were examiners and I got a "No, we are solely for customer service" answer. 

As far as if there is a difference in processing time between individual and trust application...yes, there is a difference and it can be as much as by half.  With an individual transfer, the ATF does a backround check to include both criminal and mental health and they also have to process the fingerprint card through the FBI database and all of this takes time.  With a trust, all the ATF does with it is make sure that the application is filled out correctly, has notarized copy of the trust along with a Schedule A & B, makes sure that the beneficiary isn't the same person as the trustee and also that the trust is written to fulfill the legal requirements of that particular state.  Making sure the Form 1/4 is done right takes a few minutes but going over the trust is what takes the time...but it's no where near the length for a backround check & fingerprint processing.  So yes, there is a difference it time and the trust goes through faster.

That's interesting. Every time I call, and a friend has the same number of stamps and same experience, they act like I'm taking their valuable time away from important work. We even theorized that my friend's Form 1 was getting kicked to the bottom of the pile every time he called.
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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 03:14:02 AM »
Turnaround goal is 120 days on tax-paid transactions, so you probably should check.

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Re: My SBR wait
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 12:03:31 PM »
I guess I started getting antsy at about the right time.   


It came in Saturday, the 6th!!!! :clap

Now to get the reciever engraved, and make a few copies of the forms.



Then.......it's time to SUPPRESS


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