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I am looking at purchasing some Armscor subsonic 22lr. Has anyone here tried that load? I have shot a good bit of Armscor .22 mag and .380 but have very little experience with their other loads.
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I have no experience with it, but I am curious why this is in Class III. Did you post in the right board?
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I imagine it is going to be used in a suppressed weapon and the OP wanted the opinion of someone who has used this ammo in such a firearm.
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It is one of the few plated subsonics that I have seen. I am looking at using it in a sealed suppressor.
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Gotcha.
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In case anyone is curious, the Armscor subsonics are pretty good. They occasionally make a sonic crack out of a 16.5 inch bbl, but overall are very quiet. The velocities are not quite as constant as CCI, but they are inexpensive, acceptably accurate (minute of pinecone at 65 yds), and most importantly for a sealed suppressor, they are plated. They work well out of my Spectre too. Overall I prefer CCI standard velocity or subsonics, but the Armscor works very well and for $2 a box they are very affordable.
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If you're concerned about cleanliness and buildup in your sealed can, plated won't make much of a difference. The first 1,000 rounds I fired out of my Silencerco Sparrow were all plated, and it was still incredibly filthy when I took it apart.
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It makes a difference with leading. Some manufacturers warn you not to shoot exposed lead through their suppressors, especially the built in ones that you can't dip or soak in solvent easily.
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I'm just saying that there is a lot of lead buildup from all those plated bullets.
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I'm just saying that there is a lot of lead buildup from all those plated bullets.

I figured as such.



Let me ask this, is leading from .22s even that bad?  Or after how many rounds would one notice?
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It gets pretty bad in a suppressor. I cleaned mine for the first time after 1,000 rounds, per the manufacturer's recommendation. My cleaning cycle is down to 500 now.
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Yea, .22's lead pretty bad.  Even plated ammo leads as because the plating is so thin that it will wear through from friction in the rifling and even the projectile bases can be exposed as well.  If your sealed can has few rounds throuh it and you have even a small kitchen scale you can try this experiment.  All you need to do is weigh your suppressor now and record the weight in a journal or something similar and then after every 500 or 1000 rounds re-weigh it and record the weight and compare it to your starting weight.  You will find that even after a few thousand rounds the weight difference will be significant...and most of that weight is due to leading.  I'm sure Outbreak can back me up when I saythat the leading is like epoxy and difficult to remove.
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I figured as such.



Let me ask this, is leading from .22s even that bad?  Or after how many rounds would one notice?

Very bad. Hence buying a sealed .22 suppressor isn't a good deal. You'll want to be able to actually take it apart and do some very heavy duty scrubbing.

Centerfire rounds aren't nearly as bad of a deal since you buy rounds with actual jackets instead of being merely copper washed.



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And this bad leading is only for suppressors?  Or would my CZ barrel for example, also be leaded like so?
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And this bad leading is only for suppressors?  Or would my CZ barrel for example, also be leaded like so?

You're going to get some leading, but generally it's not too bad for gun barrels. I've never had a problem with leading in .22 bbls, and I shoot a LOT of .22 ammo and I get decent cleaning action by pulling a boresnake through a time or two.

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I should hope not. Mobs of rogue woodworking tools would suck to repel.

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I pull the B-snake every couple hundred rounds or so...at this point, I still see the shiny inside the bore, so I'm not really worried.

I just wanted to know more about leading for the long term.
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You ain't got nothing to worry about...I hardly ever clean my bores except about once a year...plus steel gun barrels can be cleaned with harsher solutions than lightweight aluminum suppressors if you had a very heavy leaded bore that wasn't coming clean with normal cleaning chemicals/techniques (there are steel suppressors of course, but aluminum is a common material used in the interest of weight savings)

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I should hope not. Mobs of rogue woodworking tools would suck to repel.

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Yea, .22's lead pretty bad.  Even plated ammo leads as because the plating is so thin that it will wear through from friction in the rifling and even the projectile bases can be exposed as well.  If your sealed can has few rounds throuh it and you have even a small kitchen scale you can try this experiment.  All you need to do is weigh your suppressor now and record the weight in a journal or something similar and then after every 500 or 1000 rounds re-weigh it and record the weight and compare it to your starting weight.  You will find that even after a few thousand rounds the weight difference will be significant...and most of that weight is due to leading.  I'm sure Outbreak can back me up when I saythat the leading is like epoxy and difficult to remove.

^ Yup.
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