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7.62x54R silencer
« on: February 13, 2010, 04:39:26 PM »
ok so basicly, i got a plastic stock, and a scope mount for my mosin nagant carbine. while trying to get the assembly out of the old stock we chop-sawed the front sight post off, along with the bayonett mount. now i've been looking into getting a supressor on it. the problem is, im not at all sure if a supressor would even work on such a gun. i mean the barrel is only 16 1/2 inches long, and for a nag, thats pretty damn short.

so question is, does any know if a supressor is very affective on 7.62x54, or specifically a mosin nagant.






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Re: 7.62x54 scilencer
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 04:54:20 PM »
It might burn away after the first shot...
From what I can glean here http://warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-ordnance/silencer-mosin-2358/ it looks like it has been done but you would need special subsonic loads or my "might burn away" turns into "baffles aflame".
I don't read Finnish so I have no idea what the datasheet says.

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Re: 7.62x54 scilencer
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 06:23:44 PM »
oh ok cool. i didnt even know they had made supressors specifically for the mosin.

thanks though, i thought it might be a little strong for a supressor
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Re: 7.62x54 scilencer
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 06:28:58 PM »
I'm sure if you reload you could build up something that would work.
Though...it looks like it attaches to the front sight post so you would have to figure out another way to mount it.

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Re: 7.62x54 scilencer
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 08:15:17 PM »
I belive the russian have a silince for the SV-98. I will have to look into that. Not that you would probably be able to buy that supressor if they is one, since they won't sale us or we can't import the rifles. :facepalm Which sucks I would like a SV-98. I seem to recall they had silincers but I could be wrong. At any rate if they do I know some one has gotten a silincer to work for the 7.62x54R round.
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Re: 7.62x54 scilencer
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 08:38:38 PM »
Suppress a 7.62x54R from a 16" barrel?  Holy cow.  That'd be a sight to behold.   :o

I don't think I'd bother with that.  7.62x54R is a cannon of a round.  Any suppressor that you build (and that's what you'll have to do; build one) is going to have to be so beefy that the size and weight will be ridiculous.

I guess it might be a fun project if you have time and money to spare, but I wouldn't expect any practical results.

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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 09:00:02 PM »
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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2010, 09:14:59 PM »
Quote from: JesseL on February 14, 2010, 09:00:02 PM
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Oh lord.   :facepalm

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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 09:23:22 PM »
I actually had Jesse in mind when I typed that response.

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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 10:39:52 PM »
What fun is a Mosin, especially a carbine, if it doesn't set off car alarms at the range? That's half the reason I love my Mosins so much. I can out shoot guys with scoped rifles at 200yd, standing with a 100 year old iron sighted boat paddle, and get twice as many shots off because they have to turn off their car alarm between every shot.

Why would you suppress that kind of fun?
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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 10:45:29 PM »
Maybe if you had an Obryez and wanted to stay conscious after the first shot?

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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2010, 10:56:20 PM »
Maybe if you had some annoying local fauna that you'd like to be able to strike down like the hammer of Thor without disturbing the neighbors?
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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 02:38:45 PM »
Quote from: JesseL on February 14, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
Maybe if you had some annoying local fauna that you'd like to be able to strike down like the with the hammer of Thor without disturbing the neighbors?

Fixed it for you. ;)
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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 12:34:00 AM »
There is something satisfying about taking an ugly milsurp and and hammering the target with it.  The gentle carress of a metal recoil pad, using a bayonet in leiu of a rifle rack, all wonderful things. 

I like the idea of photoshoping quad rails onto a Mosin, or writing a satiric rave by Ogre about Gundoctor & Chris Costa and the new secret hyper tactical Mosin, or a made up DOD request for proposals on a spec ops capable combination oar and bolt action with integral bayonet and supressor not less than 200 cm in length...

But topping my to do list does not include putting a a supercharger and racing slicks on an old subcompact, nor putting a piece of steel on the front of a Russian fence post that costs at least 10 times more than the rifle did.

IFF you are an amateur machinist, and you want a project, and want a paperwork project, then by all means start at the bottom with a challenge.  But if you are paying someone else to do the work...
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Re: 7.62x54R silencer
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 03:01:39 AM »
Any 7.62 can made in all stainless (or titanium) should work fine. You're not going to get a high ROF or probably even a high round count on it so be more concerned about that corrosive surplus ammo you'll be using. You'll want a can that can be cleaned easily.
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