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Custom Ruger Mini-14
« on: July 03, 2010, 12:42:12 AM »
I picked up a Ruger Mini-14 today, one we had taken in on trade.  Just because I was curious.  It has an aftermarket custom thumbhole stock and a custom aftermarket heavy barrel.  It shot quarter inch groups today using Ultramax factory reloaded ammo.  I killed 2 Prairie Dogs and a Coyote with it on the way home from work.
The scope totally sucks, but the gun it's self is quite good.  Reliability has been good, but then again I've only fired about 25 rounds through it so far. 
I think I'll sell it and make a few bucks on it.
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 12:47:43 AM »

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 02:15:38 AM »
I might actually like it if it weren't made by Ruger.  Have some fun with it and sell it.
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 02:51:06 PM »
 What's wrong with Ruger?

Hey george, you better keep that Mini.

I doubt they're very common out there, but keep it around just in case an AR15 fanboy rags them down.....

That'd be hilarious to watch. 
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 04:10:46 PM »
Can we get a close up picture?  How much do you think you would ask for it?  What distance was that 1/4 in. group at?  Do I have any more questions?

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 04:13:56 PM »
Thread is pointless without results pics...  :neener
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 04:47:58 PM »
 That's one thing I never understood...people want to see group pictures...

Why?  Proof? How is it proof? he might have put the target at 25 yards to get a said group.  :shrug
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 04:51:40 PM »
I can just picture it.  George is driving home and sees a coyote jogging through the sage brush.  So he pulls over and gets out of the truck.  The coyote takes off at a dead run.  George gets out his camera and gets it set up, gets the rifle out and starts recording.  The coyote is desperately running and occassionally glancing back over his shoulder.  George pulls a Matthew Quigley, patiently dials in his scope and 3 shots later the coyote is down.  (That wind plays heck on .223 past 600)   Two prarie dogs pop up to see what the commotion was all about, and he nails them too.  Go back and watch the video, it's all there.   :clap

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2010, 05:04:35 PM »
 Just a thought that popped into my mind:

What was the Mini-14 traded on?
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2010, 05:53:40 PM »
George....based on your descriptions, I'm wondering if the original owner had Accuracy Systems do the custom work.  Have a look here:

http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/mini_14_30_accessories.php


If you decide that you dont want it a want to sell it...let me know. I may be interested. Thanks.

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2010, 07:22:51 PM »
That's one thing I never understood...people want to see group pictures...

Why?  Proof? How is it proof? he might have put the target at 25 yards to get a said group.  :shrug

No.  I just want to see the joy.

BOOM!!!!

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2010, 08:05:39 PM »
George....based on your descriptions, I'm wondering if the original owner had Accuracy Systems do the custom work.  Have a look here:

http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/mini_14_30_accessories.php


If you decide that you dont want it a want to sell it...let me know. I may be interested. Thanks.

-R.

The gas block and everything looks exactly like that.  I bet that is what this is.
Photos and another video later tonight.
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2010, 12:06:34 AM »

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What happened was that I smoked 2 P-Dogs and then thought of some notes I needed to write down.  I was leaned over the hood of my truck, still with the E-Muffs on my head.  I was jotting down my stuff when I heard a small howl.  I looked up and there was a siluette of a coyote up on the ridge about 200 yards away.  I watched that coyote slink down the hill coming in to where I kill P-dogs.  This coyote was young and stupid, but it had learned that I shoot P-dogs and it gets fed.  So it came to about 150 yards to so when I gave it a 52 grain HP.

This new scope is a huge improvement over the old one.  While it is still a total POS, at least I can see through it and focus it.
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2010, 01:07:29 AM »
The Mini-14 is one of those rifles I really wanted to like but never had much luck with.  Mine had an accuracy issue I could just never nail down.  It was one of the stainless factory folders and looked as cool as could be but was all over the place when it came to putting rounds on target.  It was good for hosing down the junk ditch and impressing your buddies but that was it.  I ended up selling it.

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2010, 09:58:00 AM »
Does it have the Accuracy Systems bedding job then?
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2010, 11:31:52 AM »
To be able to print a quarter inch group, I'd suspect so.  However I have not taken the stock off to look.  And this not being a factory stock - I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
You want it?  I am open to interesting trades.   
Like your little SP101 I did a review on...  ;D
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2010, 12:17:03 PM »
The main problem on the early Mini-14 series that continued for decades was the barrel.  It was too thin and too flexible.  Typical was a smith who took a plug gauge that was slip fit in the barrel.  It would stop in the barrel.  He then backed off the bolts on the gas block and the plug gauge would go all the way through.
Some time careful torquing, sometimes with shims would fix the problem.  Another problem was reportedly coming from the way Ruger was manufacturing the barrels it was rumored that the lathes were taking to heavy a cuts on the barrels and were getting the barrels to hot in the machining process.
     There were all kinds of fixes, usually involving sleeves, braces, and finally just re-barreling. The  thing is even the fixes ran the price up, and in some cases you were paying more than you would for a "good" AR. 
Ruger has supposedly improved the accuracy of their later model Mini-14's but it may be to late to recover any reputation or larger market share for the later model. 

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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2010, 12:21:13 PM »
Now... they improved the barrels, but didn't fix the problem.  Mainly the problem being Ruger was still making them. 
The new ones are better - but still not on par with even a mediocre AR... or on par with anything after 10 rounds worth of heat.  Ruger's Target barrels are better, with that 3 pound weight they added to them.  So I guess the are good shooters.  Unless you take that weight off it.  Then they turn to pure crap.
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 02:27:48 PM »
Uh...........no. :bash

Run that rifle through, say, 20,000 rounds, then we'll stack it up against that particular SP101 and compare notes.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2010, 03:53:35 PM »
How long is the barrel?

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2010, 10:40:38 PM »
I remember reading a GunBlast review on the Ruger Ranch Rifle in 6.8 SPC.  Clint reported that out of the box it wouldn't hardly group.  He had some factory ammo that he wanted to use up so he could use the brass for reloads.  At around 60 rounds IIRC, it started to group and got down to less than an inch. 
While it is nice that it broke in for him, that is an awfully rough barrel and/or a sloppy bed to take that many rounds to break in.

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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2010, 10:51:18 PM »
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2010, 12:45:51 AM »
  Uh.

One note:

A Mo-Rod/Harbar/Accu-strut does wonders to a Mini-14...

I'll admit mine's *****d beyond all recognition at the moment, but it dropped 8" groups down to 3.5" groups by installation

P.S.  No, 8" groups weren't norm.....my Mini used to go 2", then one day started tossing a shotgun pattern.....no clue why, don't se a problem  :shrug    That said: Of 3 of 4 Mini's I know: All group 2" or under with Ultramax 55 SP ammo.

Admittedly they won't stack up against the AR15, but they're not doom and gloom like some people say.     Plus, back when Minis could be had for $300-$325, AR15's were going for $900.....you could drop $600 on a mini and getting it shooting near comparable  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2010, 01:25:09 AM »
To anyone willing to drive out to Vernal to pick it up - 700 bucks... with a good portion of this going to my Campaign.
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Re: Custom Ruger Mini-14
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2010, 04:38:32 PM »
Does that include the scope you just put on it?


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