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Lead time update, and pricing
« on: July 06, 2016, 06:02:31 PM »
Well guys and gals I've drug my feet. I've been selling most of my rigs at the same price until today that I set back in 2011. And like everything else in this world, cost of everything has gone up so today I'm tossing up some new pricing for things. I kept it pretty light considering costs etc, most rigs went up $10 and a few went up quite a bit because honestly they are time killers to build. So rather than just eating the extra time those take I upped the pricing to account for the extra work. For instance shoulder rigs went up a bit, allot of that is building and finishing out the harness which takes allot of shop time to get done. Either way lots of reasons for the move, but I wanted you guys to be aware of it since it changed just a few minutes ago on the site. Also forgot to mention but getting good hides has been more of an issue today. I've got two hides sitting in a box waiting for a pickup that I got from my supplier that I won't pay for and they are eating shipping to take them back. Any time I get hide that isn't up to standards is a time suck, and just irritating. I'm looking at a couple other options there that hopefully will take some of the time out of the equation but it's going to up my leather costs even further.

The other thing is while I was going through that I figured I'd better take a look at the lead time and see how things are shaking out. For guys who've recently ordered you know I've been busy, and since Maggie was born trying to keep up;) Well I'm finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel there, and things are coming back in line. So as of right now I'm going to put it out at 10-12+ weeks on the site down from the 16-18+ weeks I had on there quoted. For guys who ordered in the last month or two this won't effect your lead. Well it might depends on where you are, I guess the best way I can say it is this. If you ordered yesterday and were quoted 16 weeks, your still going to get your rig before the guy ordering today and quoted 10-12 weeks. So it's always by the dates the orders come in, then second how fast it's paid for. So if you place an order, that dictates when I payment request, then when you pay dictates where it gets hung in order while I'm working on them. I don't think I ever really explained that before but that's how I do things in the shop, so just an inside look;)

So lots of things going on around here, kids and family are doing great. We're getting things done and despite the warm weather getting ready for the long winter which will be here before long.

And thanks to all of you guys for the support buying rigs and whatnot it's certainly appreciated.

Take care!

Luke
MichiganI am the owner/proprietor of www.adamsholsters.com Custom holsters made for you. To contact me please use E-mail rather than Private Messages, luke@adamsholsters.com

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    Re: Lead time update, and pricing
    « Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 06:43:07 PM »
    Your rigs are well worth it.  Honestly I am surprised that your prices haven't got up sooner.  As far as lead time, your still WELL within reason for the quality.  I still need to put in an order for my Model 15 4"... and another for my Glock 19.   

    For anyone on the fence about ordering, do it.  Lucas spoiled me for holsters.  I tried to pick up another manufactures holster.  I just can't do it.  Even though I am using a kydex clamshell for my Glock, I can't see spending money on leather that isn't an Adams.  Enough so that I still have my Adams for a S&W M&P9c.  I sold the gun, not the holster.  THAT is an example of how good your work is. 
    Yes I live in California.  Please dont hold that against me.

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    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 06:51:29 PM »
    Your rigs are well worth it.  Honestly I am surprised that your prices haven't got up sooner.  As far as lead time, your still WELL within reason for the quality.  I still need to put in an order for my Model 15 4"... and another for my Glock 19.   

    For anyone on the fence about ordering, do it.  Lucas spoiled me for holsters.  I tried to pick up another manufactures holster.  I just can't do it.  Even though I am using a kydex clamshell for my Glock, I can't see spending money on leather that isn't an Adams.  Enough so that I still have my Adams for a S&W M&P9c.  I sold the gun, not the holster.  THAT is an example of how good your work is. 

    Thanks sir I appreciate it;) It's been a long day, the leather issues didn't help but it's that whole when it rains it pours;) But it does always brighten my day hearing that guys are enjoying the rigs I build.

    I held out for pretty much as long as I could on pricing, I always try to keep it at what I figured is a reasonable level compared to a few other makers who I respect and where I feel my work falls in line with theirs. But as they have upped their prices over the years I just kept mine there hoping honestly that leather or something would go down rather than up each year. I'm not sure this is where things will stay at this point, hard to tell. I guess allot of it depends on hide, and ability to get it. When I first started to now I'm paying over twice the price and honestly the overall quality is sort of all over but it's not as good as what I used to get. Which just means I'm paying for leather I can't use which gets often given away to new makers or local people needing leather or used for prototypes etc. The hide I got today which is going back tomorrow is a 17sq. ft. back, and by my estimate 7+ sq. ft. aren't usable for one reason or another. And that's not counting parts of the hides that just aren't firm enough, that's purely based on marks, brands, bug bites, fat rolls etc. Just craziness.

    I'm waiting to see I've got a test order in at another tannery W&C, I used some of their leather a couple years back and ended up going back to Hermann Oak. But now that I'm having trouble getting hides from them I'm happy with I'll try W&C again. But this time of year is their annual shutdown for a month, so I likely won't see those hides for at least another month or two depending on how things go. So we shall see, they are more expensive by another buck or two a foot but if the quality is consistent and it's got the right temper I'll run that until something changes again;)

    Either way much appreciated, praise like that certainly makes my day.

    Luke
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    Re: Lead time update, and pricing
    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 04:35:56 PM »
    No worries about either the price increase or the wait time.  That knife sheath you made for me is a pretty high quality piece.  Dunno if that was a first quality holster piece or something that was deemed not suitable for holster use but its working out fine.   :thumbup1   Most knife sheaths are generally not subject to the stresses and strains place on the average gun holster so that might be an outlet for some of the lesser quality material.  I realize that not 100% of each hide is actually usable in holster making but perhaps you could use some of it for other purposes.  I was thinking that a one inch square with rounded corners, a hole in one corner for attachment and stamped with your Adams Holsters maker stamp would make an awesome fob for a keyring and maybe double as some advertising that could be handed out to interested persons.  Just a thought .  .  .    :hmm
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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 05:59:35 PM »
    Well I've been thinking about the keyring thing for ages, I actually have done a few but hand cutting them just isn't feasible. So I've gotta either buy the fobs cut which then kills using oddball leather;) Or I've gotta setup a clicker press to cut them, which is really a part of my long term plan but that's still a little ways off yet before I can do that.

    On the hide the biggest problem is grain issues and scars both just make the rigs not look as good as they should whether it's a knife sheath or holster. So generally my rule of thumb is while leather is expensive time is even more expensive and if I'm going to put the same amount of time into a rig it may as well be first rate rather than trying to use that scrap cuts. But I do use it often if I'm prototyping a new design or things like that. As long as I'm only generating a few sq. ft. of hide per side of leather it's not nearly as bad. But when I get into things much higher near half a hide, that's when it starts getting crazy;)

    So we'll see, I've considered other uses for it. I've given a fair amount away to local knife makers etc for sheaths. But I've not found a good use for it quite yet. Eventually I'll figure out something;)

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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 09:38:22 PM »
    While I agree that a clean, uniform sized keyring fob would be ideal there is no reason not to go with a freeform piece of the same general size.  You already have scrap material, you just need to be somewhat creative about how to use it.  ( says the schlub on an internet forum who couldn't produce his own holster if life and limb depended on it .   .   .     :facepalm ) Nevermind .  .  .  Thanks for the update and carry on.   :cool
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